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    jimmyp

    I am indebted to Critic for his or her in depth analysis of my posts. May I suggest to Critic that less may be more and we would very much appreciate hearing any new material that he or she has rather than a re-hashing of mine. Perhaps a bit of legal study might help critic to understand that governments have the luxury of sovereignty and that means they get to make rules for the rest of us to follow. If you don’t like the ones here you may apply to live in another country. Bear in mind that country might not pay you a pension. When in NZ do as the NZ’ers and accept the waste of money.  Life can be very sad when you can’t always get what you want but if you try sometime you just might find, you get what you need.

     

    jcm parlane

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    Thank you little jimmy for your un-researched advice.

    You have clearly indicated that you are a sheeple and will follow wherever a financed party tells you to go (he who pays the piper) ,

    sheeple

    But some of us (still have the right equipment) are fully aware that positions of trust go with rules and regulations that do apply.
    A simple example of where the laws apply in the case discussed would be in the Crimes Act 1961 section 408.
    You are stating

    and that means they get to make rules for the rest of us to follow.

    Not entirely true is it little jimmy because they have rules to fol;low as well or have you got another perhaps politically motivated take on that which we should hear for entertainment

    much appreciate hearing any new material that he or she has rather than a re-hashing of mine

    Did you mean a disassembling of your argument which you were using in an attempt to justify crappy advice to people? Advice that probably serves a political party but not necessarily justice …

    don’t worry the Supreme Court will not make you pay for the damage. What a brainless organization that is?

    Certainly if you have no respect for the legal fraternity or institutions tasked with enforcing the laws you have chosen the least educated method of proving it …. and you have every right to do so… but you are coming up a little short little jimmy … did you want to try again?
    🙂

    Life can be very sad when you can’t always get what you want but if you try sometime you just might find, you get what you need.

    Eaten? 🙂

    nonchalant

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    jimmyp

    Critic uses a tone that goes well beyond the expectations of other contributors and controllers of this forum. I expect they allow him or her to continue because it is thought that Critic is in their ‘dotage’ . It is a bit wasteful for critic to repeat some of what other people say here. I suppose it is Critics way of trying to identify a point. When Jock Anderson wrote the trivia page of the NZ law society in the Herald, he coined the phrase ‘scudder’. That is what Critic is. Especially if Critic advocates nicking electricity and being disrespectful of others Critic is not happy with. Critic wants everything for nothing. I wonder if he or she comes from England? Critic seems to not have much respect for others contribution and fails to understand basic normal social values. Is Critic a Rumplestiltskin type character? Perhaps he or she likes punk rock? The bitterness I see in Critic is of great concern to me. Clearly Critic would benefit from listening to Jackie du Shannon singing ‘Put a little love in your heart’

    jcm parlane

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    That is what Critic is. Especially if Critic advocates nicking electricity

    Little jimmy expects respect but fails dismally at understanding that respect is something one earns if he intentionally misreads another’s post and determines it to be drivel despite clear wording Critic suggests he would be bloody stupid to expect respect

    I presume he(little jummy) believes he knows what he is talking about but comes up a tad short on relevant reference materials … small wonder little jimmy has his frilly? knickers in a knot because he simply gets the measure of respect merited…
    I know of no reason that a normal minded person would like to be accused of “nicking” electricity So we can presume that little jimmy has reading skills that have not matured or he is a support spinner for a political party… we can cut labour out as he clearly doesn’t like the idea of a young lady in a position of authority, My guess is act party because they probably wont even get a look at the next elections so they are probably getting desperate… and little jimmy with his half cocked arguments and frilly knickers in a knot possibly volunteered

    Little jimmy keeps coming up short in those important little places even when he tries to criticize somebody in the third party but he is entertaining because he just keeps coming back for more and gets it. 🙂

    connoisseur

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    jens

    Hi jimmyp  –  rather than  baiting  critic  to get harassed over   matters   which might  belong perhaps  to  a law and  order thread –

    why not  try  to  clarify the destination of the  third  way on this Third Way site ?

    The original  third  way  was the  Social Democratic welfare  state idea  between mixed libertarian  private  ownership  capitalism and Socialism or exclusive  Govt. Monopoly  capitalism, i.e.  dictatorial Socialism/Communism.

    Or is  that  not true?

    The welfare  state  has  raised  consumption  potential for all, but  begins to stall when the  need  for  welfare  keeps  increasing and too many  begin to rely and  demand for   welfare  which then becomes  economically   not sustainable   –   and  poverty  instead of  prosperity begins to spread.

    Is  that  not  so, and  what  could  be  done for  welfare   not in  favor only  of  the  sectional interests  of the far Right or Left –  but in a sustainable  way for all ?

    #1695468
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    Yes this topic seems to have become a bit sidetracked and I apologise if  I have contributed to that. I have thought more about Critic and see that he deserves his own separate topic because there are real concerns about Critic’s mental health that I would like to share with the group.  I do think that Critics ” third way” is quite right, sort of.  It is clear that critic seems to think that the third way is HIS way. He also seems to think that simply because someone offers a suggestion to the group, then the offeror has their undies tangled. That is not so. Also  Critic seems to be very easily misled that someone might not like someone, our PM for example, simply because she may be young and female. Again a person in that position is entitled to and gets a certain amount of respect, even from me. regardless of gender or other social variables.  I have no personal grudge against her and have not indicated anything here that shows that.  Readers may be surprised  to know that I send her regular e.mails. No doubt, Critic will find something I have said and re-gurgitate it [ sorry I have never spelled that word before so don’t know it] then put it in a posting and say that I  did not research it. Critic should be assured that I had researched the last topic he accused me of not researching and I have written at least two academic essays on it and sat an exam on that subject. Critc should be aware that ” discussion” in a form like this need not be researched. Or peer reviewed or published elsewhere or agreed with. People just put things out there. Isn’t that fun? Critic may be aware of the developmental Psychologist, Abraham Maslow. He  established, by research of course, that people under stress do not function at their normal ” best” level of intellect or social politeness.  My Research hypothesis now is that critic is not operating at his best level because something is weighing him down.

    Please readers, overlook the insane ravings of Critic. Please offer a hand of friendship and kindness and let Critic know that they are not alone. We are all worried about our future but if we think about it in a relaxed way, answers will come to us. The night is always darkest just before dawn. The equinox is only a week away and then things will brighten up.

    Remember Critic that if you smile at someone and say ” gidday” they will reciprocate. You can look at the research on this subject if you like or you can take my word for it that happy people live longer and are more healthy than sad people. There is always someone with a worse lot than you. People who have  a wide circle of friends and a wide range of interests are more healthy and live longer too.

    I think that the issue of the political third way has been fairly well hashed up now. We know our Government  is in trouble and they are  trying to spend their way out of it. We are not going to solve that issue here. This is not researched but life has taught me that you can only stamp out so many fires before the soles of your shoes wear out. I have experienced  loss, depression, having to ” retool” my ways of making a living and I have felt miserable like Critic  most likely does, There are a lot of critics out there and they  are at present  not in a position to offer positive suggestions but they will be soon.

    Do you remember the ad on TV for the Saachies with flying geese? When one goose can’t keep up, others fly down alongside honking to inspire the goose to carry on. When the leader tires, another takes the lead and the leader rests in the slipstream. I think we should show  some positive support for Critic and so I will set up another  topic so that  we can all send a positive helpful message to critic while he reflects on how  he may again fly at the front of the Gaggle or Skeine. God will not send the answers to you. You will stumble upon them yourself.

    Best wishes Critic.  Hang in there and enjoy what small mercies you have. The government  or anybody else can’t take away your personality unless you let them.  Was it Eleanor Rooseveldt who said that?  The All Blacks need your support because they won’t be getting mine. I give mine to the Cancer Society.

    The next paragraphs got out of order and I do not know if this thing cuts and pastes?

    Critic likes to name call and thinks that calling me ” little Jimmy” might somehow advance his position.

    What does worry me is that I may have been a bit too hard on Critic in my last  writing here. I think that the communication problems Critic  has protested about are his or her own. Today upon reflection, while researching something else, I came to the realization that Critic lacks a normal amount of grace and that  our initial reaction toward people who advocate stealing electricity would naturally be to see them punished. Indeed even critic would  most likely suggest that if someone took some of his property, a point I tried to make earlier. The third way in this case is to show compassion toward Critic because all may not be well in Critics mind. While the rest of us at first glance might see critic as funny and at second glance, we may see him or her as angry, then if we have another look we may come to realise that the real problem is that Critic is very unhappy. He is crying for help and we should be giving it to him rather than winding him up as is said above. Is there anybody close to Critic who can lean over the fence and ask if there is anything they can help him with. Would he like to share something serious with the group? We will seriously help if there really is a problem. At present Critic is wanting to fight with the boxing gloves off. That shows a level of emotion that is very concerning.

     

     

    jcm parlane

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    jimmyp

    Positive thoughts for Critic  can be left under the topic under the heading Friends and Meet Up’s.

    jcm parlane

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    Ha Ha ha you are a real dagg little jimmy …I like your manipulative humour and hope you are not offended by mine

    I wasn’t sure what the tune was you were playing but it started off a combination of apologizing to jens. then you moved on to blowing your own trumpet and and playing a violin for me.

    Of course you remained half cocked about things like in suggesting I reckon the third way is for me… if I recall I came onto this thread to point out to jens that no path is going to be worth treading without adherence to Rule of Law because peoples investments are not safe.

    go little jimmy

    I will give you three points for your efforts little jimmy and if you have been suffering from depression or that other psychological problem I do hope that I haven’t upset you more by highlighting your shortcomings.

    I realized you were out of your depth over the issue I was discussing but like I indicated earlier ….if you step into a conversation with insults and don’t even bother to read the subject matter before jumping in feet first it is not on me… I will simply point out your short cummer and let you know when I believe you are out of your depth … I mean it is what it is.

    I hope you get over your infatuation with your diagnostic abilities and I see you have been cruising the internet looking for names to drop. I have no problem with that nor with you little jimmy…. you try to hang in there with a smile and just keep on licking windows if that’s what you really want 🙂

    I knew this other fella (I will call him bob)that was alleged to have a psychological problem years ago by a actual professional rather (than a wind bag) and the conversation went something like..

    Doc…. Do you hear voices in your head
    Bob…. Yes of course I do… that’s why my ears are attached to it

    I couldn’t stop laughing… (not at bob)

    Bob was a smart fella that just cruised through life he once pointed out that if the doctor or anybody else believed that he has a problem in his head the obvious reality is that the doctor+ is the one with the belief or problem on his mind(in his head) and it really isn’t going to make a jot of difference to bobs days… bob had a really bad wisdom tooth 🙂

    Anyway I can see my comments really got to you and you have indicated that you feel the best remedy is a cheer team? … here you go buddy

    yay little jimmy

    Jens … There is little point in discussing any path of investing money that lacks security. I do not mean the security of assurances but rather genuine evidence of stability and security not assurances of same.
    With a corrupt regime we have victims and while the media might well focus upon the offenders that got busted there is always a mountain of victims to consider and the ones that didn’t get busted.
    We are a small Nation but our government of late has been attracting a bad element and the legal fraternity needs to clean house.

    I don’t know if you read this article right through but I suggest this just displays the tip of the iceberg

    How the mighty fall from grace

    Some interesting names from the “Justice” sector from both significant parties each of whom have served in fiduciary relationships.

    I too would like to pretend there are no problems but when I even put my mind to considering savings plans my first thought is security and …. as you are aware I have some concerns over security when Rule of Law is overlooked or hijacked.
    Justice needs to be seen to be present

    Have a good one jens:)

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    I don’t think so Critic. Wrong as to facts. No research by you and the ravings of a loony would not offend me. I have worked with them before but we were not allowed to call them that then.

    What the world needs now is love sweet love.  All of my last posting came from the voice in my head. I didn’t look anything up. As Hanibal Lecther once said ” Memories, Agent Starling, are all I have”.

    My last positing was a serious reach out to you. I hope you will be OK. Shalom.

    jcm parlane

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    Jens … There is little point in discussing any path of investing money that lacks security. I do not mean the security of assurances but rather genuine evidence of stability and security not assurances of same.
    With a corrupt regime we have victims and while the media might well focus upon the offenders that got busted there is always a mountain of victims to consider and the ones that didn’t get busted.
    We are a small Nation but our government of late has been attracting a bad element and the legal fraternity needs to clean house.

    I don’t know if you read this article right through but I suggest this just displays the tip of the iceberg

    How the mighty fall from grace

    Some interesting names from the “Justice” sector from both significant parties each of whom have served in fiduciary relationships.

    I too would like to pretend there are no problems but when I even put my mind to considering savings plans my first thought is security and …. as you are aware I have some concerns over security when Rule of Law is overlooked or hijacked.
    Justice needs to be seen to be present

    Have a good one jens:)[/quote]

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