- December 30, 2011 at 1:59 pm #732921
Just what do you mean.?A bit of pot calling kettle black I would say. I quote from The Hollow Men a book in the Public Library that reputable journalists used in opinion pieces. You quote from Cut & Paste all round the world Whats the difference.?
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchDecember 30, 2011 at 2:27 pm #732923
doogieMemberMember since: March 27, 2006
Maybe the difference, Dr L is that book you keep refering to is compiled from stolen material. you keep saying that no one was charged for the theft, as you well know it was stolen and not handed out with the owners concent. If you were given something knowing that it was stolen, and used it because no one was charged for its theft makes no difference. What is stolen is stolen and remains the propery of the owner. For you to not aknowlage that speaks volumes about yourself. Thanks for the revelation.December 30, 2011 at 3:08 pm #732925
Doogie, So whistleblowers have no place in your black & white world.Thank God for whistleblowers I say.And just what are you hiding from.? What about The Exclusive Brethren being found out colluding with your Party in 2005 and in The Hollow Men? Murky goings on there.!Now who were these National Party insiders that leaked the information to Nicky Hagar.? And why did Dr Don Brash resign on November 23rd 2006.? .I am reading a very interesting book at the moment "A Thorn in Their Side" The Hilda Murrell Murder. by Robert Green who I know.It has been supported by NZ Prime ministers and Ministers and was first published on October 2011. Every proffered fact can be backed up by source material It involved Margaret Thatchers plans for British nuclear energy and the controversial sinking of the Argentine cruiser General Belgrano in the 1982 Falkland War.This is a tale of mystery and intrigue which touches all our lives.
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchDecember 30, 2011 at 3:19 pm #732927
Doogie, Can you enlighten me as to what happened when Dr Don Brash sued Nicky Hagar. I must have missed that court case somewhere?
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchDecember 30, 2011 at 3:36 pm #732929
arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
I agree with Peters – the meeting of Key and Banks was PARTY POLITICAL not Parliamentary and therefore cannot be considered the business of the Attorney General nor a cost or a benefit to the Taxpayer. No public servant can do Party Political business on the Taxpayers’ dollar. We were in the middle of an election campaign. The House had risen for the term. They were meeting to discuss the Epsom campaign. Banks was a candidate not an MP at that time. Nothing to do with Parliament. Nothing to do with the AG. Nothing to do with the taxpayer. To make it so is expedient to say the least and an abuse of power.
Regarding The Hollow Men and the emails you like to refer to as stolen…
The police investigated and were unable to find any evidence at all that they had been stolen, hacked, or otherwise obtained illegally. The facts are that Brash and others were less than careful about what they committed to email and who they sent those emails to – in fact, two names were released at the time, recipients of the emails, who might have had much to gain by releasing them to Hagar; John Key and Bill English. Since they, and several others, were legimate recipients of the emails they were legally entitled to share them with whomever they liked. No charges were ever laid and no-one lost their job over it. You can can call them stolen, Doogie and Old Jack, but there is absolutely no proof that they were; that just suits your particular political beliefs.
🌊Arandar🏄🏽♀️December 30, 2011 at 3:46 pm #732931
arandar, Thanks for supplying the facts and putting it so succinctly. Its your journalism talents showing through.
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchDecember 30, 2011 at 10:12 pm #732933
OldJackMemberMember since: December 19, 2006
“What about The Exclusive Brethren being found out colluding with your Party in 2005”
What about the Exclusive Brethren?
Why should any group of people put some money into trying to get rid of a corrupt government by simply advertising during an election, cos that is all they did.December 30, 2011 at 10:24 pm #732935
arandar, It has been suggested for some time that John Key& indeed Bill English were behind the leaking of the information to Nicky Hager speaks volumes about Keys integrity to his then leaderThe fact that the then leader of National Party lied about emails speaks volumes about The National Party.The fact that The Hollow Men was made into a stage play and also a film as a feature length documentary that was shown to sell-out audiences at The Wellington Festival in 2008 puts Doogies &OJs bleats into perspective And now we have Teapotgate with John Banks and John Key. Who will be playing the film leads in this murky saga?
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchDecember 30, 2011 at 10:39 pm #732937
OldJackMemberMember since: December 19, 2006
Because a film was made about it then it really must be all true.
YEAH RIGHT!December 31, 2011 at 10:06 am #732939
kiwichickMemberMember since: May 9, 2008
No emails weren’t stolen, just a smoke screen put up by the people who leaked them.
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