- #1711113Hero42 February 12, 2019 at 1:30 pm
Interestingly it would appear that National’s plan to get rid of Winston at the next election doesn’t seem to be as great as they thought.
With this poll having NZ First on 2.9% the Greens and Labour would govern alone.
Cheers 🙂#1711124doogie February 12, 2019 at 3:25 pm
It is my opinion that Phil Twyford is struggling with a monster of a problem over the housing mess the government inherited but he does have the courage to tackle that problem.
Pause right there.
With Labour holding firmly to that belief for nine years with housing in disarray there adequate time to consolidate a plan to execute the Kiwi Build policy saying the would hit the ground running and later doing a belly flop with what would appear to be based on no solid planning being done. Where in that is there no element of bluffing the voters.
Where in the hitting the ground running can you point out there was no bluster while the wheels were falling off.#1711139Hero42 February 12, 2019 at 4:37 pm
When in opposition a party has no funds to do anything as we can see from National at the present moment and Kiwibuild requires builders and developers so there was no way Labour could do anything while in opposition other than to plan the strategy.
As to bluffing the voters as already pointed out what a party says in opposition and does in office is fairly consistent with all parties as we saw with John Key promising to catch NZ up with Australia and then letting the gap widen. To be fair a lot of it has to do with the coalition deals the main party enters into but at least Labour is trying to fulfill their promise.
Either way what you consider bluff and bluster doesn’t seem to be viewed the same way as the majority of the voters as we can see from the poll ratings.
Cheers 🙂#1711163doogie February 12, 2019 at 6:39 pm
Mar 7, 2010 – It wasn’t a firm election promise – John Key wasn’t as reckless as that – but it … Catching up with Australia actually began with Don Brash, when he was … the New Zealand economy was soon going to have to start growing at ……
But Labour were reckless. Not only did they campaign once on 100,000 affordable homes but three times. three times with no plans is reckless#1711269Hero42 February 13, 2019 at 1:13 pm
I don’t know if John Key used the word promise or not, nor do I know if Phil Twyford used the word promise about the Kiwibuild numbers, but the expectation in 2007 was that if National were elected we would all get richer and catch up with Australia. Didn’t happen, didn’t even try and I know a lot of annoyed National supporters who were looking forward to increased fortunes.
And as that link you posted says:
It wasn’t a firm election promise – John Key wasn’t as reckless as that – but it was an important part of National’s campaign
Either way both said things that may have influenced the voters and if it was bluff and bluster or fraud by one it was for the other too.
And of course the other interesting point is that John Key didn’t suffer in the polls despite not delivering on an important part of National’s election campaign and it look like Jacinda’s popularity isn’t either.
Cheers 🙂#1711311sir-nigel-gresleyMemberMember since: January 10, 2017
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I noticed Simon pronouncing the word ‘China’ in the proper way today on Parliament Live. 🙂
Happy Valley#1711342Hero42 February 13, 2019 at 4:38 pm
I didn’t know Simon Bridges spoke Mandarin.
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Happy Valley#1711440doogie February 14, 2019 at 12:27 pm
your responses carry no weight. They draw no valid comparisons.
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