- #1698865bsoperMemberMember since: March 29, 2013
Replies: 988bsoper October 12, 2018 at 10:11 pm
If we don’t have cows we don’t have milk and if we don’t have milk idiotic people like you will be moaning cause there is no milk but all of these people will be so thick that they will not realise that we have to have cows to get milk .You may not realise that milk doesn’t grow on trees therefore once more I will explain in simple English that if we don’t have cows we won’t have milk.#1698866sir-nigel-gresleyMemberMember since: January 10, 2017
Replies: 941sir-nigel-gresley October 12, 2018 at 11:23 pm
But, but, Benny. Cows milk is for calves, not humans. 😎
Happy Valley#1698872halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4664halcyon October 13, 2018 at 9:04 am
No so Benny. Without cows we can still have milk in our latte. There is ewe’s milk and goat’s milk. And there is that abomination called soy milk that is becoming more popular on Ponsonby Road. 🙂
I behave therefore I am.
(Apologies to B F Skinner and Rene Descartes)#1698873don021MemberMember since: May 15, 2012
Replies: 1637don021 October 13, 2018 at 10:38 am
Perhaps we should grow palms and have coconut milk, it is vert nice without tea in it.#1698938bsoperMemberMember since: March 29, 2013
Replies: 988bsoper October 13, 2018 at 9:00 pm
O and I
Yuk Goats milk stinks
Sheeps milk is thin and useless
I can see you are a townie us country gentle folk look on you Ponsonby dorklanders as not the most intelligent people where healthiness is concerned.
a voice of the south#1698955doogieMemberMember since: March 27, 2006
Replies: 6223doogie October 14, 2018 at 10:23 am
One for you as reported by Whaleoil
The Methamphetamine Testing Industry Association Of New Zealand is currently petitioning the House of representatives to conduct an independent review into the development and conclusions to the Prime Ministers Chief Science Advisors Meth report. The reasoning behind this is because The PMCSA’s Meth report findings have been immediately adopted to shape policy by State entities such as Housing New Zealand and the Real Estate Authority. It also appears that the Tenancy Tribunal are trying their hardest to incorporate the wording within the Meth report into their rulings as well.
The Meth report has not been subject to the same scrutiny involved in the development of a published New Zealand Standard, which is required to comply with the Standards and Accreditation Act 2015.
Upon the release of the Meth report, Phil Twyford demanded that the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment engage an independent review into the NZS 8510:2017 development process. The conclusion of this review found the NSZ8510:2017 development process was compliant with the Standards and Accreditation Act 2015.
The Minister for Housing and Urban Development is now choosing to follow the opinion of scientists in one state institution (the PMCSA Office) who are not toxicologists, (yet produced a report which aligns with his thinking,) while ignoring the reports produced by scientists in another state institution (ESR) the Institute of Environmental Science and Research who are toxicologists.
In written question 22158 (2018) Simon O’Connor asks the Minister of Research, Science and Innovation (Dr Megan Woods) Does the ESR stand by their report, Review of Remediation Standards for Clandestine Methamphetamine Laboratories (07 October 2016) recommending that an acceptable level be 1.5ug/100cm2 for methamphetamine use, or do they agree with a level of 15ug/100cm2 as adopted by the Prime Minister’s Chief Science Advisor report? Dr Megan Woods replied: “I am advised that ESR stands by its report”.
In addition, it appears the Minister of Health Dr David Clark was ignored by the office of the PMCSA. In Written Question 13013 (2018) Dr Shane Reti asks Dr David Clark, what communications and when has the Minister had relating to the methamphetamine (meth) testing, meth policy development and the Gluckman report including communications with the Chief Science Advisor and Standards New Zealand?
Hon Dr David Clark replied: “I have not had any communications with Sir Peter Gluckman or Standards New Zealand relating to methamphetamine (meth) testing, meth policy development and Sir Peter’s report on Methamphetamine contamination in residential properties: Exposures, risk levels, and interpretation of standards”.
With the Ministry of Health’s primary function of improving, promoting, and protecting public health under the Health Act 1956, the long overdue answer to written question 22159 (2018) will be interesting.
Simon O’Connor asked the Minister of Health on the 13 Sep 2018: Does the Minister of Health stand by the ESR report commissioned by the ministry entitled Review of Remediation Standards for Clandestine Methamphetamine Laboratories 07 October 2016 and support the conclusions of this document? The 10 day answer period has now been exceeded.
The PMCSA meth report considered that a lack of clinical cases demonstrating illness arising from methamphetamine contaminants at the current standard equated to ‘evidence of absence’. This statement is ridiculous as the effects we are talking about are subtle neurological disturbances and developmental milestones, which the vast majority of parents and clinicians would be completely unaware of as they relate to thirdhand exposures to meth from housing surfaces.
We are likely not talking about seizures or something so clinically obvious that would result in kids ending up in emergency rooms. So to say there are no case reports of illness at the current standard, while true, is still a false argument. Furthermore isn’t it a good thing that there are no case reports of illness at the current standard? It seems funny to me that it would be considered to indicate a flawed standard in contrast to it adequately providing the protection it is designed for.
Before Housing New Zealand, the Real Estate Authority and the Tenancy Tribunal start changing policy and legal precedent, surely the relevant government departments must be engaged with to ensure all obligations are met with relevant Acts, and that discussion documents “intention of the report” that are cited are subject to the same scrutiny as Published New Zealand Standards?
This appears to be a significant miscarriage of justice which ignores the usual process for incorporating documents into legislation whilst potentially endangering our most vulnerable.
The Methamphetamine Testing Industry Association Of New Zealand have overwhelming evidence that the PMCSA report is full of research bias to support a preconceived conclusion, ignoring the independence that this office’s credibility is built on. The Petition for an independent review of the PMCSA meth report is not about what level is right or wrong, it’s about ensuring that due process is followed#1699082Hero42MemberMember since: July 18, 2008
Replies: 11409Hero42 October 15, 2018 at 4:41 pm
So Simon is blaming Botany MP Jami-Lee Ross for the leak of his expenses report in August even though the forensic report is inconclusive.
Mr Ross has disputed this in a series of posts on Twitter, and accused Mr Bridges of “unlawful activity”.
“Simon Bridges is going to attempt to pin his leak inquiry on me. He can not find who the actual leak is, so is attempting to use contact with my local police area commander, and a journalist that is a friend (not Tova [O’Brien, Newshub political editor]), as evidence that I am somehow involved.
“I have said they are unrelated – he does not wish to believe that. Some months ago I fell out with Simon. I have internally been questioning leadership decisions he was making, and his personal poll ratings which show he is becoming more and more unlikable in the public’s eyes.
“When I started to become expendable, I confronted him with evidence that I had recorded him discussing with me unlawful activity that he was involved in. Working on his instruction, he asked me to do things with election donations that broke the law.
“This evidence led Simon to push me out on medical leave a few weeks ago. It was essentially an attempt to stop me from speaking publicly. I now have a duty to speak publicly on these matters. I will do so in coming days.”
Mr Bridges said Mr Ross “would say those things” and rejected the claims, particularly of unlawful activity.
“I’m not surprised he’s lashing out… he is wrong. He is lashing out. Today I put out the report – it is there and it speaks for itself.”
Not a good look and this could get very messy indeed. Personally I think Simon should just have said they couldn’t find the culprit.
But if we are to believe Simon then it was indeed one of his MPs.
Cheers 🙂#1699083Hero42MemberMember since: July 18, 2008
Replies: 11409Hero42 October 15, 2018 at 4:46 pm
And the leaks are continuing.
More leaks came on Monday, showing Mr Bridges filed two donor returns in January – the second one lacking two donations which the party says were mistakenly put on his return instead of that belonging to the party.
The donations came from a company with close Exclusive Brethren links and a group called Cathedral Club. Both amounts – $14,000 and $10,000 – are above the threshold which requires them to be made public if donated to an MP, but can be kept secret if made to a party.
The first return was filed on-time in mid-January. The second, amended return was filed in February, after the deadline. National says it refiled the returns on the advice of the Electoral Commission.
The Electoral Commission said in a statement there is no penalty for amending and refiling a return after the deadline.
So are these leaks from the original leaker, or are they from Jami-Lee Ross if he wasn’t the original leaker, or is there someone else who has it in for Simon.
Cheers 🙂#1699085mommabear70MemberMember since: February 20, 2017
Replies: 1500mommabear70 October 15, 2018 at 5:11 pm
I read education minister Chris Hipkins is changing the criteria to enable more schools to appoint unregistered teachers as teachers with “limited authority to teach” in a specified subject or area.
Wasn’t it Labour who howled at the moon because charter schools were using unregistered teachers?
Auckland alone is estimated to need 260 extra primary teachers and 130 extra secondary teachers in 2019.
Overseas applicants could come under our refugee quota as accommodation has already been built for them.#1699101halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4664halcyon October 15, 2018 at 7:22 pm
That is interesting mommabear. Schools have had access to the use of the LAT for many years. It is something that the unions have opposed. Part of the union opposition to Charter Schools was their ability to use those who had expertise in their field and were not Registered Teachers. After all who better to teach accounting practice than someone who has been a forensic accountant for years. Their knowledge would be greater that a graduate teacher who has never had the responsibility of completing an annual return in real life.
I remember the comments of an ex-Principal who said she had a LAT who was a better teacher than half her staff. Registration is not a quality mark.
I behave therefore I am.
(Apologies to B F Skinner and Rene Descartes)
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