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    Profile photo of mommabear70mommabear70
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    Member since: February 20, 2017
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    mommabear70

    hero42, you need to read and take the Treasury graph for what it shows, not what you would like it to show. As I said previously, you do another that includes the changes in population growth if that’s what you’d prefer.
    Or write to Treasury and tell them their graphs aren’t good enough.

    “If the population declines the demand for housing declines and therefore the residential consents decline so you need to consider the population growth to get the true picture.”
    That’s a good point. Did the population decline during the 1999-2008 reign of Helen Clark’s govt? You’re so good with figures, I’m sure you can find out and provide the links.

    “..as 95% of the residential consents in Auckland are for unaffordable housing..”
    Goodness me, building companies are in business to make a profit. Lees-Galloway will soon sort that out.
    When you have some spare time, would it be too much to ask that you do a bit more delving and supply the number of residential consents for Auckland affordable housing approved since the current govt came to power and the likely completion dates for those houses?
    Cheers  🙂

     

    #1680341
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    henri

    Mommabear

    Hero42 is right all you did was publish a graph of consents.

    It was nothing to do with government policy and everything to do with market forces.

    We all know population dropped when more people emigrated than immigrated so why would he have to produce a graph.

    Yes builders need to make a profit but when left the their own devices under National that have added to the problem by going for big profits instead of answering the market needs and accepting a smaller profit

    #1680357
    Profile photo of mommabear70mommabear70
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    mommabear70

    Henri, normally I don’t respond to the obvious but I felt you should be commended.

    ”..all you did was publish a graph of consents.”

    Well done henri, at least one  Grownups member can understand what that post contained. You deserve a red star stamp.

    #1680386
    Profile photo of arandararandar
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    arandar

    ^^^ Reported yesterday.

    The politics today pages are now down to one semi active thread.

    Shame but clearly the interest, the need, is no longer here.

    Arandar

    #1680406
    Profile photo of halcyonhalcyon
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    Member since: May 4, 2014
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    halcyon

    Is it a case of “the interest, the need, is no longer there”, arandar?   Or is it a case that it is easier to criticise the Government than it is to defend it.

    Surely those who were critical of the National Government should be singing the praises of the current Government. After all , things are being done differently now.

    However, it is easier to  condemn a Government than it is to defend it. Condemnation can be done in ignorance but defence relies on knowledge.

    And there is as much need to debate the policies of this government as there was of the last.

    I find it hard to believe that we now have obtained  utopia.

    Already disturbed, approach with caution.

    #1680407
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    bsoper

    Arrander

    This is because all the other correspondents with differing views are being swamped by the N.Z. First Labour voice overs. A shame but as long as they have the majority this will never change, Roll on the next election ousting of this N.Z. First Labour Government.

    B Soper

    #1680484
    Profile photo of Hero42Hero42
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    Hero42

    Halycon
    I believe the left wing is singing the government’s praises and there is a lot to praise.

    Perhaps it is more the right wing has found little to condemn as the government is doing so well and the few attacks that are raised are quickly snuffed out with intelligent response.

    What we do seem to get is similar to the National MP who called the Prime Minister “a silly little girl” in the debate chamber and now won’t own up to saying it.

    This is illustrated by Benny / Bsoper claiming that the threads are being drowned out by NZ First / Labour voices in contradiction to the statement that they aren’t saying enough.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1680501
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    henri

    It would be bad form for the winners to be bragging about how well the government is doing all the time

    #1680523
    Profile photo of arandararandar
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    arandar

    Bsoper,
    Haven’t heard from you for such a long time. Welcome back.

    Funny, your opinion and Halcyon’s seem to put the lack of interest and posts down to two opposing reasons.

    Me? I just think people have lost interest here and on the Current Affairs Pages due to the banning of so many who’ve not returned, two stalwarts dying recently which is deeply saddening, and the separation of Current Affairs from Politics Today. I cannot understand how anyone can actually believe the two are not inextricably entwined.

    Glad to see that spam, advertising illegal passports and forged official documents, has been removed. For goodness sake! A website like this should not be open to such abuse.

    Again, again, again, I suggest, Admin puts all new ‘members’ into moderation until they prove they are real people with genuine reasons for being here.

    Arandar

    #1680524
    Profile photo of halcyonhalcyon
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    halcyon

    One of the factors that adds richness to these pages is the variety of opinion arandar.  However, I fail to see how it is the NZF supporters who are contributing to the demise of the pages. But you are right we have lost some who use to regularly contribute. I do miss Doc. While we always appeared to have opposing views he was always the gentleman and never resorted to personal attacks.

    Hero, I agree, the “silly little girl” comment was a blow below the belt, and not becoming of the person who made it. Sure Ardarn still lacks the polish that Helen demonstrated. But she has not had the experience as yet. Lets wait until 2020 and see how she develops.

    The same can be said for Bridges. Currently he is not impressing me as a sound leader.  It will be interesting to see how he shapes up between now and election time.

    As to singing the Government’s praises. I would recommend people wait until after Budget Day when we see what unfolds.  Currently my thoughts are that Labour may have shot itself in the foot by selling out to the minor parties. One billion dollars as a gift to Shane Jones so he can play the big guy is rather questionable when we still have children living in poverty.

    Already disturbed, approach with caution.

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