- #1653037doogieMemberMember since: March 27, 2006
Replies: 6211doogie November 18, 2017 at 3:32 pm
It would not be advisable for reduced speed trucks choking the ruads reducing traffic flow speeds in ceneral and in turn making frustrated overtaking moves more hazardous. Trucks these days have more ability to travel at a faster safer speed than of old. More axles undernieth represents more braking power.#1653075arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10503arandar November 18, 2017 at 8:06 pm
I propose this as a partial solution to our dire road toll because it is what many European countries do. Trucks are confined to the inside lane, they’re not allowed to overtake each other (perhaps except when they are not impeding traffic flow, and they travel at a lower speed than other vehicles.
Trucks are increasingly involved in accidents.
It does not have to be the truck driver’s fault, that’s not what this conversation is about.
We are discussing the terrible cost, emotional, medical, and financial, of our road toll and how we can bring it down.
#1653119TedE November 19, 2017 at 7:23 am
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TedE - Papakura -#1653149halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4563halcyon November 19, 2017 at 2:46 pm
According to an article presented by RadioNZ’s Philippa Tolley:-
“At Waikato University’s Transport Research Group, Samuel Charlton studies why drivers behave in the way they do. He said New Zealand drivers were known to be competitive, and described New Zealanders as one of the “world leaders” in the desire to race away from the traffic lights and beat everyone else, a trait that is coupled with an urge to get in front of other cars.
But Mr Charlton wants New Zealanders to learn to take responsibility for their actions, as many drive almost ‘automatically’ and blame others when something goes wrong.”<b></b><u></u>
That last paragraph is key to our accident record. Sam’s academic career has focused mainly on transportation accidents and what causes them. Before coming to NZ Sam was engaged in similar research in the USA. He has spent around 20 years researching NZ driving behaviours. I remember him being involved in the design of the road markings at the end of passing lanes.
He highlights something that is a weakness in our Kiwi psyche. That of not wanting to take responsibility for our actions and our preference of seeking external explanations for the outcomes of our actions.
There are 10 types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't#1653305TedE November 20, 2017 at 12:21 pm
Thank you Halcyon, Competitive driving has no place on our roads. Should we ban motor sport?
It’s the lives of our compatriots that are at stake, not ours? We’re bullet proof!
Glorification of the burnup and the screaming of engines is ludicrous in this day and age.
At least someone is taking the issue seriously.
TedE - Papakura -#1653322halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4563halcyon November 20, 2017 at 1:20 pm
TedE, it is quite legal to carry a gun in rural areas while hunting. Try doing that in a city. The same with motor sport. Why not let them compete in the appropriate place, being the race track or on specially closed roads. Crusher Collins had the right idea. Get caught driving in a dangerous manner and the car gets it. 🙂
There are 10 types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't#1653325drlivingstoneMemberMember since: October 22, 2006
Replies: 34938drlivingstone November 20, 2017 at 1:24 pm
Halcyon And how many did sheCrusher Collins actually crush? One or two? Did I hear Julie Genter on air this morning talking about zero tolerance. Wonder what she is planning to do?.
Peoples Republic Of Christchurch#1653353doogieMemberMember since: March 27, 2006
Replies: 6211doogie November 20, 2017 at 3:23 pm
What you are no alluding to is why so few cars have been crushed. Is it because the policy is worktbg or that the the law is nor being upheld?#1653362drlivingstoneMemberMember since: October 22, 2006
Replies: 34938drlivingstone November 20, 2017 at 4:52 pm
Doogie, Judith Collins introduced the law in 2009 but it took to 2012 to crush the first car. Since then only two more were crushed.However Justice Minister Andrew Little thinks it has been an effective law and it isn,t on anyones radar to change at the moment
Peoples Republic Of Christchurch#1653839TedE November 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm
In the late fifties we milked cows near Waiau Pa and when they moved the Grand Prix to Pukekohe It was advisable not to be on the roads on weekend when there were “Motor SPorts” on at Puke.
In the late 80’s our son and his family set up at Waiau pa and we travelled there a lot of the years to help them and the same situation still applied with the hoons on the Puke Motor Sport weekends.
Economy runs if you like and safe driving needs to be encouraged.
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