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NZ road toll – what is acceptable?

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  • #1543813
    TedE
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    TedE

    I read recently about the Swedish model which has adopted a campaign for a zero road toll. They were killing 7 people for every 100,000 of their population which is slightly more than our year toll last of 6.5 people /100,000 or near enough one person per day.

    Here is what has happened since in Sweden:
    http://www.citylab.com/commute/2014/11/the-swedish-approach-to-road-safety-the-accident-is-not-the-major-problem/382995/

    Should we continue doing more of the same or should we think about adopting a similar attitude to Sweden?

    Should we be starting the conversation differently?
    Start by asking how many lives it is acceptable to lose per year?
    What number of severe injuries we should say are acceptable?
    What do we do when that number is reached?
    Shut off all vehicles from the road and not use them again till the year is over?
    Maybe we should allow the public transport to continue?
    Although it may be better if we used the shutoff time as one of National Mourning.
    Could we ask for volunteers to be the next death?
    Maybe some of those who feel we should continue as we are could volunteer their children or loved ones?

    There are so many alternatives.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1544238
    drlivingstone
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    drlivingstone

    TedE, None is the first answer  But being in the wrong place at the wrong time perhaps split second decisions   As one who lost his only son in a multiple car crash in 1985 (four young men died 2 Kiwis Two Germans  no alcohol involved) in Munich Germany on an autobahn outside village of Schwindlegg it still haunts me 31 years later.

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

    #1544678
    joybel
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    joybel

    Another dire weekend of road deaths. Eleven fatalities, but who cares really? Listening to Paul Henry this morning, and drivers are so blasé and it will never happen to me. It is not only the deaths but the injuries that are so many. How does $2m a year to treat these accident victims. As a pedestrian crossing the road to the shops is no breeze. The lights at the avenue to the right are about 100 metres away. To the left about the same distance is another set of lights. So the idiots sit at the Ave.revving the motor and take off at speed in the hope that they will beat the next set.

    They are idiots. We play Russian roulette and take our chances as left turning traffic at the ave. follow. But that is only one side of the median strip and we stand on the strip as the idiots heading for the Ave. have left the lights and and are speeding to beat the Ave. lights.

    They are only doing 60 kms. But when walking that is fast, so eleven people in cars died last weekend because some idiots are half asleep, careless , on alcohol or drugs or impatient and stressed and cause accidents. Flying is safer . No doubt the safe drivers on these threads will come out with defence claims. Two billion dollars was spent on accident victims the past year. Think where that money could have been spent elsewhere.

    Joybel

    #1544685
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

    That is why I chose not to go away for holiday weekends….too many idiots trying to get where they are going too fast

    #1544697
    chris214
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    chris214

    And, unfortunately, idiots do not take ANY notice of regulations, or even common sense. One of the first, and most important, rules is, drive according to conditions. So what if the speed limit says 100 ks, 100 ks is NOT the target, but the MAXIMUM in ideal conditions and in wet or adverse conditions, SLOW DOWN, and give yourself plenty of room between yourself and the car ahead. And LEAVE THAT BLOODY PHONE ALONE !

    #1544703
    joybel
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    joybel

    Of course if you choose not do 100 when that is speed limit then it is your responsibility to move left to allow those behind to pass safely. There is not much room on our highways to allow this to happen. There are some slow drivers cantankerous enough to deliberately cause anger.

    Joybel

    #1544714
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

    Although your highways have improved somewhat…….there are terrible approaches on to bridges etc.

    #1544780
    drlivingstone
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    drlivingstone

    strangerontheshore We have just completed 3200 kms round The North Island mostly and have experienced in our 7.2 metre Diesel donkey some horrible bridge approaches and narrow roads We had a mishap in Blenheim which saw a big truck push us into a notorious Blenheim  bridge and we damaged badly our Hired vehicles passenger sidemirror,That will be expensive. We are in Wellington tonight heading South tomorrow after Ferry crossing.

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

    #1544824
    bosun
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    bosun

    Hi Everyone. Been visiting G/ups for some considerable time now but thought it was time to register and take part.

    I think the worst thing that could have happened (even taking into consideration the number of cars and drivers on the roads these days) is the merging of The Ministry of Transport with the Police Department. As a result we ended up with more Police that have faced cutbacks in all directions. If the Gov’t re-introduced a separate Traffic policing branch, over and above the existing Police force numbers, perhaps that may be the answer. ?

     

    #1544828
    supergold
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    supergold

    Welcome Bosun. Good to see another lady joining in.

    I can’t help but agree totally with your reasoning regarding returning to a separation of Traffic Officers and Police. Things all seemed to start going downhill when they were merged.

    Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)

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