- #1731920supergold September 11, 2019 at 7:56 am
I received this from a friend 2 years ago & maybe it is good advice, better safe than sorry as they say.
How to Lock Your Car and Why……..
I locked my car using the remote fob. As I walked away I heard my car door unlock. I went back and used the fob to lock my car again three times. Each time, as soon as I started to walk away, I would hear it unlock again!! Naturally alarmed, I looked around and there were two guys sitting in a car in the fire lane next to the store. They were obviously watching me intently, and there was no doubt they were somehow involved in this very weird situation . I quickly chucked the errand I was on, jumped in my car and sped away. I went straight to the police station, told them what had happened, and found out I was part of a new, and very successful, scheme being used to gain entry into cars. Two weeks later, my friend’s son had a similar happening….
While traveling, my friend’s son stopped at a roadside rest to use the bathroom. When he came out to his car less than 4-5 minutes later, someone had gotten into his car and stolen his cell phone, laptop computer, GPS navigator, briefcase…..you name it. He called the police and since there were no signs of his car being broken into, the police told him he had been a victim of the latest robbery tactic — there is a device that robbers are using now to clone your security code when you lock your doors on your car using your remote fob locking device..
They sit a distance away and watch for their next victim. They see you go inside of the store, restaurant, or bathroom so they have a few minutes to steal and run. The police officer said to manually lock your car door-by hitting the lock button inside the car — that way if there is someone sitting in a parking lot watching for their next victim, it will not be you.
When you hit the lock button on your car upon exiting, it does not send the security code, but if you walk away and use the remote door lock on your key chain, it sends the code through the airwaves where it can be instantly stolen.
This is very real.
Be wisely aware of what you just read and please pass this note on. Look how many times we all lock our doors with our remote just to be sure we remembered to lock them — and bingo, someone has our code…and whatever was in our car.
Snopes Approved –.Please share with everyone you know
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1731932arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10839arandar September 11, 2019 at 1:02 pm
You know, I think these stories could be listed amongst the many many things we’re being told to be frightened/wary/distrustful of … and that, friends, is one of the most common intentions of these scams.
You got it from your friend two years ago, Supergold. The first time I can find the actual story is dated 2008 and comes from the US.
And the following is what Snopes has to say about it. After saying it was possible (not probable and not proven) when the central locking and remote key fobs first appeared on the market – they go on to say … and please note below the dates the systems were upgraded to random codes – the 1990s
“…However, times change and technology advances. In response to the fixed code security weakness, automakers shifted from RKEs with fixed codes to systems employing rolling random codes. These codes change every time a given RKE system is used to lock or unlock car doors and thus rendered the earlier ‘code grabbers’ ineffective. That form of more robust code system became the industry standard for remote keyless entry systems in the mid-1990s, so automobiles newer than that are not vulnerable to being quickly and easily opened by criminals armed with the first generation of code grabbers.
It is theoretically possible for a thief armed with the right technology and the ability to manipulate it correctly to snatch a modern keycode from the air and use it to enter a vehicle. However, it’s unclear how many (if any) crooks have managed to overcome the issues of complexity and time involved in the process to use it as a practical means of stealing from cars. If the scheme requires would-be thieves to have specialized knowledge and equipment and spend hours (or more) crunching data and replicating a device to produce a correct entry code, its application to boosting valuables from cars in parking lots would be rather limited. As Microchip Technology, the manufacturer of KEELOQ brand RKE systems, noted of this possibility:
The theoretical attack requires detailed knowledge of the system implementation and a combination of data, specialized skills, equipment and access to various components of a system which is seldom feasible. These theoretical attacks are not unique to the Keeloq system and could be applied to virtually any security system…”
Honestly, I reckon, thieves are more likely to use the good ol coat hanger, screwdriver or rock to get into our cars and nick our sunglasses or CDs, heheh, or whatevers. I’m going to continue to use my clicker and I’m not going to worry about it.
Arandar#1731986doug139124MemberMember since: March 19, 2018
Replies: 59doug139124 September 12, 2019 at 6:49 am
I think you are wrong. They are not intended to scare but intended to plunder your bank account or ones goods. That is a reality not a scare.
I find protecting myself against these actions gives me some comfort and a lot less stress of being scammed.
Fortunately it is a personal choice one that affords me one less thing to worry about when I’d sooner be doing other things.
It’s the naive and elderly that are vulnerable to these scams, hopefully you are not the next victim!
To be for warned is to be fore armed.
Hopefully at least one person heeds the warnings.#1736781arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10839arandar November 8, 2019 at 10:47 am
I’ve just been contacted on Messenger by two separate, older, friends who probably don’t know each other.
Both are very excited and happy to have been granted (note the word ‘granted’) a sum of money which will make their lives on the pension much easier by an organisation called Community Development Financial Institutions.
CDFI does exist. It’s a US financial organisation that makes loans (note the word ‘loans’) to impoverished individuals and organisations. It does not make grants. At all. And it doesn’t operate in NZ.
The language used to explain to me how thrilled my friends are and to persuade me to contact the ‘Agent’ to get my grant is the usual scammer’s BS. I’ve been on-line, checked it out, it’s a scam. My friends’ phone contacts, facebook, messenger, something has been hacked and I expect they’re not the only two in the country.
Heads up again, folks.
#1736821steph154370MemberMember since: August 12, 2018
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by arandar.
Replies: 420steph154370 November 8, 2019 at 2:52 pm
what you too? I got one, ostensibly from one of my facebook friends,very keen that I apply for this “grant”.Did not apply ,of course , but did check it out and yes, it’s a scam alright.Have been warning others.
#1738902supergold December 11, 2019 at 10:38 pm
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by steph154370.
The police say someone had their bank accounts emptied after they paid a taxi driver with a debit card. They had wanted to pay with their credit card, but taxi asked for another method because he didn’t want to pay the 4% visa fee.
Police advise that whenever you are asked to use a debit card instead of credit card for whatever reason, enter the wrong PIN.
If it is a counterfeit machine it will pretend to process the payment and produce a receipt. Whereas an authentic machine will reject the PIN and request a “try again” message.
Help spread the word, as the police state this type of fraud is becoming increasingly prevalent.
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1740814supergold January 16, 2020 at 12:37 pm
Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency is warning people to be on the lookout for a scam vehicle licence (rego) email currently in circulation.
While the email appears to be a standard vehicle licensing (rego) renewal reminder, with the NZ Transport Agency logo and links to the online transaction website, it is part of a sophisticated phishing exercise. The phishing email also comes from an email address with an nzta.co.nz suffix, rather than nzta.govt.nz.
If you’ve recently received an email asking you to renew your rego, please check the email details carefully. If the email was genuinely sent from the Transport Agency, it will include your specific vehicle details including:
* your vehicle’s plate number
* vehicle make
* the expiry date of your current vehicle licence.
If the email does not include your specific vehicle details, do not complete the online renewal transaction webpage that the email takes you to. If you think you’ve received a scam email, or you’re unsure, please call us on 0800 108 809.
If you have unintentionally clicked on a suspicious link and entered your credit card or banking details, we recommend you:
1. Contact your bank immediately and have them stop any payments that may have been made.
2. You may also need to request a new credit/debit card.
3. Report the email to your local Police cyber-crime division. Go to the netsafe website and read their advisories. It is a very helpful resource for cyber safety. http://www.netsafe.org.nz
Do not delete the email. Instead, put it in your junk mail folder in case the Police need it for further examination.
The NZ Transport Agency works to create transport solutions for all New Zealanders – from helping new drivers earn their licences, to leading safety campaigns to investing in public transport, state highways and local roads.
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1741198melon1MemberMember since: July 30, 2006
Replies: 2melon1 January 22, 2020 at 4:53 pm
There is another scam that I have received the last year or two from IRD naming a sum of money they have for me if I fill in the questions. It looks official but I suspected it from the first email. This has happened about the same month each year- 1st August I send it to <phishing @ird.govt.nz> and they send me a reply saying that it is a scam and will look into it.
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