- #1731920supergoldMemberMember since: May 9, 2009
Replies: 9018supergold September 11, 2019 at 7:56 am
I received this from a friend 2 years ago & maybe it is good advice, better safe than sorry as they say.
How to Lock Your Car and Why……..
I locked my car using the remote fob. As I walked away I heard my car door unlock. I went back and used the fob to lock my car again three times. Each time, as soon as I started to walk away, I would hear it unlock again!! Naturally alarmed, I looked around and there were two guys sitting in a car in the fire lane next to the store. They were obviously watching me intently, and there was no doubt they were somehow involved in this very weird situation . I quickly chucked the errand I was on, jumped in my car and sped away. I went straight to the police station, told them what had happened, and found out I was part of a new, and very successful, scheme being used to gain entry into cars. Two weeks later, my friend’s son had a similar happening….
While traveling, my friend’s son stopped at a roadside rest to use the bathroom. When he came out to his car less than 4-5 minutes later, someone had gotten into his car and stolen his cell phone, laptop computer, GPS navigator, briefcase…..you name it. He called the police and since there were no signs of his car being broken into, the police told him he had been a victim of the latest robbery tactic — there is a device that robbers are using now to clone your security code when you lock your doors on your car using your remote fob locking device..
They sit a distance away and watch for their next victim. They see you go inside of the store, restaurant, or bathroom so they have a few minutes to steal and run. The police officer said to manually lock your car door-by hitting the lock button inside the car — that way if there is someone sitting in a parking lot watching for their next victim, it will not be you.
When you hit the lock button on your car upon exiting, it does not send the security code, but if you walk away and use the remote door lock on your key chain, it sends the code through the airwaves where it can be instantly stolen.
This is very real.
Be wisely aware of what you just read and please pass this note on. Look how many times we all lock our doors with our remote just to be sure we remembered to lock them — and bingo, someone has our code…and whatever was in our car.
Snopes Approved –.Please share with everyone you know
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1731932arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10763arandar September 11, 2019 at 1:02 pm
You know, I think these stories could be listed amongst the many many things we’re being told to be frightened/wary/distrustful of … and that, friends, is one of the most common intentions of these scams.
You got it from your friend two years ago, Supergold. The first time I can find the actual story is dated 2008 and comes from the US.
And the following is what Snopes has to say about it. After saying it was possible (not probable and not proven) when the central locking and remote key fobs first appeared on the market – they go on to say … and please note below the dates the systems were upgraded to random codes – the 1990s
“…However, times change and technology advances. In response to the fixed code security weakness, automakers shifted from RKEs with fixed codes to systems employing rolling random codes. These codes change every time a given RKE system is used to lock or unlock car doors and thus rendered the earlier ‘code grabbers’ ineffective. That form of more robust code system became the industry standard for remote keyless entry systems in the mid-1990s, so automobiles newer than that are not vulnerable to being quickly and easily opened by criminals armed with the first generation of code grabbers.
It is theoretically possible for a thief armed with the right technology and the ability to manipulate it correctly to snatch a modern keycode from the air and use it to enter a vehicle. However, it’s unclear how many (if any) crooks have managed to overcome the issues of complexity and time involved in the process to use it as a practical means of stealing from cars. If the scheme requires would-be thieves to have specialized knowledge and equipment and spend hours (or more) crunching data and replicating a device to produce a correct entry code, its application to boosting valuables from cars in parking lots would be rather limited. As Microchip Technology, the manufacturer of KEELOQ brand RKE systems, noted of this possibility:
The theoretical attack requires detailed knowledge of the system implementation and a combination of data, specialized skills, equipment and access to various components of a system which is seldom feasible. These theoretical attacks are not unique to the Keeloq system and could be applied to virtually any security system…”
Honestly, I reckon, thieves are more likely to use the good ol coat hanger, screwdriver or rock to get into our cars and nick our sunglasses or CDs, heheh, or whatevers. I’m going to continue to use my clicker and I’m not going to worry about it.
Arandar#1731986doug139124MemberMember since: March 19, 2018
Replies: 59doug139124 September 12, 2019 at 6:49 am
I think you are wrong. They are not intended to scare but intended to plunder your bank account or ones goods. That is a reality not a scare.
I find protecting myself against these actions gives me some comfort and a lot less stress of being scammed.
Fortunately it is a personal choice one that affords me one less thing to worry about when I’d sooner be doing other things.
It’s the naive and elderly that are vulnerable to these scams, hopefully you are not the next victim!
To be for warned is to be fore armed.
Hopefully at least one person heeds the warnings.
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