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    Jens I am just glad I found a fairy tale to match your intellectual or political prowess.

    That I mentioned it as an example of how principles set into the culture of the law can be taught to children rather effectively seems to have gone right over your head. But I am pleased that you are so enamored by the tale.

    I moved on jens knowing the laws are a little more complex but if I were to have written the book I would have turned the pig into a capitalist that was keen on stealing the cake no matter who did all the work or preparations for it- I would probably script it such that the pig would be out there selling crumbs to the little red hen.

    OK my script for the little red hen would probably not have the same appeal as the original but as I indicated by moving on I have studied enough of the behavior patterns needed to presume law enforcement will eventuate in repairing a culture that seems to have lost all understanding of “EQUITY”.
    You may have noticed that I have not discriminated at all when it comes to the repossession of stolen property – which means anybody can help others by helping themselves like …. with a smile 🙂

    The repossession of stolen property (electricity)- is

    really easy under “claim of right”.
    First turn off the power at the mains switch then bridge or join the two

    heavy red wires running into the meter part…

    repossession methodology

    #1702754
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    Critic – amazingly  you are enlightened enough  to  recognize that   your  variety of the little red hen  story would not be as appealing as the original, but your apparent  hatred – (or is it  jealousy?) –  of people  with  big responsibilities earning big  money  –  seems to disable your reasoning  capacity so much,  that  you are not even aware that a  capitalist keen on stealing the  cake does  not  eliminate capitalism as the only known action of  wealth  creation through saving and  investment.

    Only communism sees theft and  crime in  workers being  employed  to generate   profits for an independent  employer.

    True or  false,  critic ?

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    Jens I realise you are intentionally trying to spin the subject away from the title of the thread and/or try your level best to gain some credibility after becoming so engrossed in a simple fairy tale …but where did you get this from?

    apparent hatred – (or is it jealousy?) – of people with big responsibilities earning big money

    What have I posted that would enable you to make such a stupid statement?
    even “If” those you describe were involved in criminal activities of the nature discussed… why would I be jealous? every dog has his day jens but a dog is a dog regardless of how many posts they cock their leg on. I am only concerned with the recovery of stolen property not hating some rabid dog that would be a total waste of my time

    In fact if you had actually looked at my last post …

    You may have noticed that I have not discriminated at all when it comes to the repossession of stolen property – which means anybody can help others by helping themselves like …. with a smile 🙂

    Critic wrote:

    The repossession of stolen property (electricity)- is

    really easy under “claim of right”.
    First turn off the power at the mains switch then bridge or join the two

    heavy red wires running into the meter part…

    repossession methodology
    repossession methodology

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    #1702844
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    Critic – do not your words  “…I would  have turned the pig into a capitalist that was keen on stealing the  cake no matter who did all the  work or preparation  for it…” –  describing an evil capitalist  –  reflect your hatred, jealousy or  whatever of  capitalists generally,  and saving and investment  for  profit  particularly?

    It  still  has  not  sunk in with you,  that  regardless  how  hard  you work  –

    without  saving and profitable investment we  all would be still only  just hunters and  gatherers without  decent  housing,  possibly with  more  fighting and robbery  between  us  for  smaller   crumbs than  what  we get nowadays as rewards  for  working  to generate profits  for an  employer.

    Yes, these days even the  smallest  capitalist can  create  wealth and  jobs  which are better rewarded  than primitive  hunting and  gathering ,  when say  building a  house and employing  workers  to help  him/her  in this  hopefully  profitable investment  or  wealth  creative effort.

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    Critic – do not your words “…I would have turned the pig into a capitalist that was keen on stealing the cake no matter who did all the work or preparation for it…” – describing an evil capitalist – reflect your hatred, jealousy or whatever of capitalists generally, and saving and investment for profit particularly?

    No Jens your reasoning is fkd up …the story of the little red hen although facinating to you is simply a fairy tale my comment indicates that I have kept pigs and I know how keen they are for food its rather like an obsession not dissimilar to the drive required for the enactment of the criminal activities of a thief or a gang/party of thieves that put considerable planning and commitment into ensuring they get their trophy.
    One can be impartial and straight up without hate but jens I have never known any reasonable minded person to be jealous of those that indulge in criminal activities- to be honest it reflects more upon you that you would suggest that another would even consider there is something to be jealous of…. very interesting though jens …do you hear voices with your psychosis?

    The rest of your post was just your favorite chant you reproduce when you want to change the subject so it isn’t worth responding to.

    Getting back on topic…Failure of private property based capitalism ?
    And of course as I said earlier to ensure there is no question about said failure

    The repossession of stolen property (electricity)- is

    really easy under “claim of right”.
    First turn off the power at the mains switch then bridge or join the two

    heavy red wires running into the meter part…

    repossession methodology

    #1702925
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    jens

    So then, critic  –  we  have to agree that  we disagree.

    I carry on  with  my saving and investment  because  it has  kept me out of  poverty.  And  although I know it  won’t save  me in the  case of a  tsunami in my area, there is  still  the  the  comforting  thought, that  at least  those  who survive the  tsunami will have a better  start if there exists  some reserve  capital  in  forms and  areas  not destroyed  by the  tsunami.

    Yes, even you  might then  benefit  from the  capitalism of others, if  you  survive

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    As it is clear now  that  without more capital saving and  investment we  cannot  expect any progress  towards  reduced  and/or  cleaner fossil  fuels  consumption – (I am contemplating to install  solar electricity panels to  prepare for  the  eventual preference  of electric  cars when  they become  somewhat  cheaper to  buy)  –

    is it not time  now  to initiate  a systematic effort for  everyone  to participate in the effort for  extra  capital generation  not  only  for  better  retirement welfare sustainability, but also for more  resources  to finance climate  change  control measures ?

    How do the  French  rioters  think  fossil  fuel  consumption  could or  should be  reduced  without  an extra tax  which not  only  would  encourage reduced  consumption  fossil  fuels,  but also  raise  capital  for  developing  alternatives ?

    Perhaps  by rationing, as was  quite  effective  during the  war ?

    Or is it too  sensitive a subject matter  for  public  comments ?

     

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    My guess is that (apart from being irrelevant to the subject matter of this thread) you have thinly disguised your intention to RE-Regurgitate discussion about savings about savings.
    I could be wrong though you might have wanted to chat about the little red hen?

    I have been trying to encourage folk to help repossess stolen property on other sites jens and I got some results after posting how your political mates used positions of trust to pick up a pen and script into being new entities to own our investments in infrastructure for pecuniary advantages plus GST …

    The post was removed .. My computer crashed (not repairable) ….My backup computer crashed (I might be able to fix with new parts) and a few other internet related problems occurred… So all up “good results” ..its getting noticed now without me getting dragged away including at gun point- like in the 90s and the early 2000s.
    It is sometimes really hard to (tame the beast) educate criminals (like your political mates) who were serving in positions of trust …. not to overreact when the truth slaps them in the face but we have progress jens… so it is only a matter of time before others wake up and give meaning to the title of this thread in the mutual interests

    Starting with re-asserting an interest in developed investments in infrastructure by the practical repossession of same….

    worth noting jens….
    A lot can go down involving peaceful folk- while folk like you (and those thieving sods you supported)…. are sitting counting the money

    🙂

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    Critic, who are the  “thieving sods”  I support, and what are they stealing ?

    You left the impression  that we  agreed to  disagree, and if you  have  a case, on the  stealing, it  does not  belong to this  thread  discussing  the pros and  cons  on private  property  based capitalism.

    Is it theft if  a majority approves  resumption of the $1000.- KiwiSaver  kickstart  to all who have not  received it yet, unconditionally  from “cradle to  grave ” ?

    Would it not be fair  to those  who missed out on it because for  whatever  reason they  could  not commit  themselves to  extra  savings at that  time, and is it not a fair appreciation to our  seniors who have  contributed  to our NZ Super Fund without  any  direct advantage  to themselves  for that, and is  it  not a nice seed  grain of  wealth  especially  for  our  babies  born  in poverty ?

    It will be also more  constructive and profitable  to the  national economy than your  selfish “repossession” of electricity  at the  expense of your fellow citizens  who pay for it  to keep it  going  for taxable profits (not taxation  financed subsidies) for the  benefit of all.

     

     

     

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