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Member since 19 Dec 2006
Member from Hampden
GiddayNow they have started with this, just like I warned ages ago, how long will it take before they start at the other end of life? Like if you are over a cetaing age and start needing too much medication you will get an after-birth abortion."AbstractAbortion is largely accepted even for reasons that do not have anything to do with the fetus' health. By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons, (2) the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant and (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people, the authors argue that what we call â??after-birth abortionâ?? (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled. "http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/03/01/medethics-2011-100411.full
Member since 02 Nov 2006
Member from Linwood
My Scottish uncle and his wife came to stay with us. I was 15. He had spent three years in a Japanese war camp. The things he related were horrible. I heard he and my mother talking about their childhood in Scotland. he made the remark that there were no cripples or mentally and physically handicapped children in their town, because the midwives took care of them. This was a common happening it seems as life was hard enough being pregnant year after year without a handicapped infant to care for.
I believe that today when a baby is born with spina bifida it is wrapped up as usual but left untreated to see if it can survive as is. So it is not new just not talked about.
Member since 29 Jun 2006
Member from Shirley
I remember this from a while ago;it was only ever intended as a hypothetical & ethical discussion & was NOT advocating this at all.
But naturally,once the media got hold of it they sensationalised it & people who did not understand the hypothetical nature of the discussion then actually believed that it was being advocated;there was a huge outcry at the time & the idea under discussion was universally condemned.
So much for discussion.
Member since 28 May 2008
Member from Wrights Bush
Animals leave the weak behind to die, to preserve a healthy species.
Why on earth would anyone bring up any subject as an hypothetical & ethical discussion unless they were intending to make it into a policy?
When this becomes law, like everything that the extreme left anti-christ pushers are intending to do they will then put up a new subject as an hypothetical & ethical discussion, when a person costs more to keep alive than he or she actually contributes to society, ie. the elderly, it is only logic they should get after-birth aborted.
Would that apply to the 'Born Again Christians' OJ?
Are we not supposed to live for 3 score and 10, is that from the bible? So that sounds like our life limit. Anything after that is a bonus.
Member since 18 Jul 2008
Member from Porirua
But we have right wing government that cares for people so surely this isn't going to happen.
'Why on earth would anyone bring up any subject as an hypothetical & ethical discussion unless they were intending to make it into a policy?'People discuss things all the time which are hypothetical OJ;its not unusual at all,especially in academic,scientific & philosophical circles.'When this becomes law, like everything that the extreme left anti-christ pushers are intending to do they will then put up a new subject as an hypothetical & ethical discussion, when a person costs more to keep alive than he or she actually contributes to society, ie. the elderly, it is only logic they should get after-birth aborted.'As I said,this was n_e_v_e_r intended as anything other than a hypothetical discussion. Unfortunately,once the American right wing christian brigade got hold of the story,common sense flew out the window.On more than one occasion,I've discussed with others the possibility pf exporting our duly elected plonkers to somewhere overseas;Siberia being a favoured destination.That does not mean however,that even if it was within my power to do so, I would do it - because the discussion was hypothetical.
Member since 09 Dec 2006
Member from Te Awamutu
Ah, but maybe we can in time implement that into law Belladonna.
'Ah, but maybe we can in time implement that into law Belladonna.'
Hmm...since so many of us (well...ok two of us!) are keen Chris,perhaps we should look into doing it?!
Can we introduce that as, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe a Taxpayer's Private Bill. ?
We would have to have a referendum wouldn't we.
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