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Member since 23 Nov 2009
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So, I guess, you just want to discuss the contents and not the fact that Bill Cosby did not write this, denies it on his website, and the original was written maybe 3 or 4 years ago by a retired American Marine?
Member since 18 Mar 2007
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Arandar,
How the hell am I to know the legality of any author whom I've never met who lives 8 or 9 thousand miles away!!!!
When I receive an email from off shore from a third party and that email contains genuine photos of Bill Cosby who we all probably recognise ( don't you start telling me that they are not genuine) what is a person ment to believe!!!! go back and have a wee look at the post.
Maybe Arandar I'm not as clairvoyant as you, for that I apologise.
But what is we generally discuss on here the author or the posts content....I would suggest the content wouldn't you ?? had you read the first 2 lines of the post that should have told you.
Cheers. 
Member since 23 Nov 2009
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No apology needed Squirter. Sadly clairvoyance isn't one of my skills. I wish it was! I just remembered seeing this hoax email doing the rounds a few years ago and later/recently reading Cosby denying it and saying he doesn't support the sentiments.
No worries.
Member since 29 Jun 2006
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For those interested,there's an excellent reply to this. Quite long,but well worth reading & Tom Dorr backs up what he says with links to the relevant sites. Here are a couple of excerpts:
http://tomwdorr.blogspot.com/
"A DEMOCRAT RESPONDS TO ROBERT A. HALL'S "63 and Tired"
I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.
>>Do you know where all the money goes today, Bob? If not, I’ll tell you. Almost 85% goes directly to pay for national defense, homeland security, the war on terror, Social Security, Medicare, unemployment benefits, food and children’s health care.
Here’s the official table for the 2008-2010 federal budget: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget,_2009
I don’t have to tell you that this budget was submitted by none other than George W. Bush during his last two years in office.
If you don’t want to “spread the wealth” on this stuff, what would you cut? Are you willing to give up your Social Security and Medicare benefits? It’s easy to be against something, but much harder to come up with solutions.
“But I paid for my Social Security benefits!,” you might say. Turns out that poor people pay a higher percentage of their income for Social Security and Medicare than middle-class and wealthy people, according to the Cato Institute, a conservative foundation in Washington. Also, wealthier individuals generally have higher life expectancies and thus may expect to receive larger benefits for a longer period than poorer taxpayers.
Here’s the link to the Cato Institute report:
http://www.cato.org/testimony/ct-mt051705.html
I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honor"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shari'a law tells them to.
>>Bob, did you know that one in four people in the world today are Muslim – about 1.57 billion in all, according to the CIA World Fact Book (2009). Do you really think all of those people are rioting rapists who want to kill us all?
Did you know, Bob, that the biggest Muslim populations aren’t even Arabs? Indonesia and India have the biggest Muslim populations in the world – and they aren’t even in the Middle East.
Come to think of it, Bob, did you know that the Bible (cf., Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Numbers) also calls on people to kill their family members, stone people to death and wipe out entire ethnic groups? Did you know the Bible also condones slavery, genocide, killing infants and other gruesome activities?
I’m Christian myself and I know that most of us don’t believe in those things anymore. Do you? Could it be that most Muslims are not murdering wild-eyed terrorists?
What about the actual terrorists? The CIA estimates there are about 5,000 Al Qaeda members in the entire world right now, spread out across 40 different countries. The number of Taliban fighters today is estimated at 25,000 – mostly in western Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Even if you double these numbers, you end up with 60,000 people out of 1.57 billion worldwide. That means there is one terrorist, on average, for every 26,000 Muslims. Should we condemn the other 25,999 because of one nut job?
In comparison, one of out every 21,000 Americans committed murder in 2008, according to the FBI. Does that make us worse than Muslims, Bob? Here’s the link:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html
The point is that can’t judge 1.5 billion people based on the actions of a few – if you want to be taken seriously. (Certainly you wouldn't judge all Marines by the actions of those who few who committed murder, rape or treason.)"
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Speaking of Bill Cosby as an aside.
I remember his family TV series a while back MNN maybe 80s was it???and what an awesome show ..Such a neat plot of family life..
Still smile when we think about it./
Share the love
Cheers Kai
Member since 18 Mar 2007
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Hey BD,
It's all about 'opinion' isn't it, so lets take the operative words of the first part of your post and they are....'give it to people ''TOO LAZY'' to earn it'....the same as my post.
There is no criticism of the 85% for homeland security, social security, medicare, or unemployment benefits....just straight out 'people too lazy to earn it' although we both do not know whether he's targeting unemployment. Nor was there criticism of the G W Bush budget.
The other Islam-Muslim garbage. Ask the Aussies where the biggest percentage comes from, they'll tell you and so will the NZ Air Force as we had a squadron of A4 Skyhawks stationed there (Aussie) for about 25 years to assist in their protection of their 'Northern Boarders' and we also know the reason why.
Yes BD we've all seen and heard of the carnage caused by the Militant Muslims who rule rough-shod over the rest of them....only about 3 months ago I posted a report of a woman being stoned to death by the Muslim community.
And as for the bible part of it....what, man made religion!!!! Yeah. And a DEMOCRAT RESPONDS, that tells me something too.
But BD for every opinion there's a counter. 


Cheers love. 
Member since 23 Nov 2009
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Some 40% of our tax take goes on Superannuation, I think I heard the other day. Stand to be corrected, of course.
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"But BD for every opinion there's a counter"
Which is why I posted the response. For those interested in both view points.
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Member since 18 Mar 2007
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Some good stuff here....who, apart from me is going to send it on to those 120 dickheads in Wgton....




""""Bill Cosby "I'm 74 and Tired" (Born July 12th. 1937)
(BILL COSBY'S PHOTO IS HERE) squirter
This should be required reading for every man, woman and child in Jamaica,
the UK , United States of America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and to all the world...
I'm 74. Except for brief period in the 50's when I was doing my National Service, I've worked hard since I was 17. Except for some some serious
health challenges, I put in 50-hour weeks, and didn't call in sick in nearly 40 years. I made a reasonable salary, but I didn't inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, it looks as though retirement was a bad idea, and I'm tired. Very tired.
I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic.
I'm tired of being told the government will take
the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.
I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and
daughters for their family "honor"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't
"believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the
genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shari'a law tells them to.
I'm tired of being told that out of "tolerance for other cultures" we must let Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries use our oil money to fund mosques
and madrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in Australia, New Zealand, UK, America and Canada, while no one from these countries are allowed to
fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia or any other Arab country to teach love and tolerance..
I'm tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate.
I'm tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ
rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses or stick a needle in their arm while they tried to fight it off?
I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of all parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful
mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught.
I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.
I'm really tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives and actions.
I'm tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.
I'm also tired and fed up with seeing young men and women in their teens and early 20's be-deck them selves in tattoos and face studs, thereby making themselves un-employable and claiming money from the Government.
Yes, I'm damn tired. But I'm also glad to be 74. Because, mostly, I'm not going to have to see the world these people are making. I'm just sorry for
my granddaughter and her children. Thank God I'm on the way out and not on the way in.
There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
This is your chance to make a difference.
(ANOTHER PHOTO HERE) squirter.
" I'm 74 and I'm tired.
Don’t you be too tired to forward this!""
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What do you reckon gang....spot-on aye.
Cheers.