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43955-25719_med 03 Jan 2012 11:47am #61
offline arandar

Member since 23 Nov 2009

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I'm trying to remember WHAT the EBs actually did - can someone remind me?

Did not their pamphlets purport to be from the Green Party - slagging Labour? Isn't that also the tactics the EBs used in Australia, in Tasmania, where there is a Green Senator? I seem to recall the pamphlets were not only printed in Greens party colours and style but also contained provable lies?

7580-StanleyWedding011 03 Jan 2012 1:11pm #62
online Dr Livingstone

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Post deleted at 03 Jan 2012 1:11pm by Dr Livingstone

7580-StanleyWedding011 03 Jan 2012 1:12pm #63
online Dr Livingstone

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arandar, I think you are right. There was also a connection between The EBs and Crosby -Textor and John Key Steven Joyce etc to do with paying for advertising.

10741-littl_e_jack_2 03 Jan 2012 1:46pm #64
offline Old Jack

Member since 19 Dec 2006

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Posts: 6355

Gidday

cor·rupt
? ?[kuh-ruhpt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.
2.
debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.
3.
made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.
4.
infected; tainted.
5.
decayed; putrid.

Doc, more than one of those definitions applies to the government at the time

7580-StanleyWedding011 03 Jan 2012 1:51pm #65
online Dr Livingstone

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OJ,enlighten Me. I don,t agree.! I am well aware of dictionary meanings.Proving corruption is an entirely different thing unless you have the evidence.

10741-littl_e_jack_2 03 Jan 2012 1:52pm #66
offline Old Jack

Member since 19 Dec 2006

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Posts: 6355

Gidday

Everyone who is elligible to vote, by law has to register in New Zealand. However, nobody is require by law, or any other reason to vote and iffin someone chooses not to vote, there is nothing at all that says they cannot try it influence otheres to cast their vote any particular way. So I say it again, Who the hell are you to tell them they have no right to try to get rid of a corrupt government.

7580-StanleyWedding011 03 Jan 2012 2:06pm #67
online Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

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OJ, So you have made up the words corrupt government, it being only your opinion.

10741-littl_e_jack_2 03 Jan 2012 2:10pm #68
offline Old Jack

Member since 19 Dec 2006

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Posts: 6355

Gidday

No Doc it was not only my opion because many others held the same opinion that the government at the time fitted at least one of those definitions.

7580-StanleyWedding011 03 Jan 2012 2:11pm #69
online Dr Livingstone

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arandar, Did you hear anything about John Key using taxpayers money to pay for his controversial Australian Strategy advisers Crosby-Textor.I read somewhere there was a query whether Key used Parliamentary Services rather than the National Party.I think I read their bill was $12,600 in that instance.

7580-StanleyWedding011 03 Jan 2012 5:55pm #70
online Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

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And OJ, Just what was corrupt about that Government that you and your many others unnamed thought in your opinion.?

62426-Reunion_2003 03 Jan 2012 6:52pm #71
offline pete087

Member since 03 Jul 2011

Member from Taihape

Posts: 357

I still think that you guys are all getting upset about various definitions when in reality it's all a fait accompli,and always is when it comes to politics,and therefore it is all sewn up and sealed.

As I have said before, corruption,or "corruption" is present everywhere and it is only a matter of "how much" and how "deadly" it might be when it comes to the general good of a society.

What I call corruption is what those finance companies did which literally robbed many NZers blind and did it legally.
That is far more deadly than what a couple of politicians did over a cup of tea because all they were doing was setting up the deck chairs without telling the others in their respective parties.

Yes,of course it's going to give Winnie all the ammunition he needs to bring down everybody to his own level,and then Harawira will climb in over the struggling bodies with his own knife.....this term might be better than Goon Show reruns !

But the real corruption will never see the light of day,you can bet on that.
And while you're at it have a look at all those "retired" politicians and study their carefully laid plans to establish well paid future employment in similar scenarios......the list goes on and on.
And if you think they didnt know it was coming then go and join all the other sheep in the lower paddock.
Cheers.mrgreen

10741-littl_e_jack_2 03 Jan 2012 8:28pm #72
offline Old Jack

Member since 19 Dec 2006

Member from Hampden

Posts: 6355

Gidday

Hey Doc, just put the second definition that I posted in #64 alongside of that government and look what they did to our society with their social engineering and you will see what I mean.

And in your #69 you highlighted that corruption is still rife in our government too.

"I still think that you guys are all getting upset about various definitions when in reality it's all a fait accompli,and always is when it comes to politics,and therefore it is all sewn up and sealed."

Pete, that statement is spot on, and shows that we do not have democracy here, it's just a delusion.


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