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Blank 14 Sep 2011 2:31pm #1
offline puddick

Member since 01 Jan 2008

Member from Mt Maunganui

Posts: 3

Do any of members tried this new drug Pradaxa for artril fibralation how do find this

53709-MMac 15 Sep 2011 9:59am #2
offline majorminor

Member since 19 Sep 2010

Member from Napier

Posts: 430

Me - if i felt i needed to thin my blood i would flag the Rat Poison (Warfarin) and get into Garlic in a big way. In my book better to look for the cause rather than use drugs to change the symptoms.

Blank 15 Sep 2011 11:06am #3
offline ten bob

Member since 11 Feb 2009

Member from Palmerston North

Posts: 269

I had an irregular heart-beat, but haven't had any more problems since taking a magnesium supplement. Magnesium is used by the body for nerve signaling and our soils and food are deficient in it.

Blank 21 Sep 2011 7:06pm #4
offline Jaxy

Member since 12 Feb 2008

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 1

I have chronic atrial fibrillation and have been on Pradaxa for two months and was previously on Warfarin. I have felt great on Pradaxa though I am about to see my doctor again to discuss this further due to the issues re Pradaxa in the news of late. I am not of the older age group who appear to be the ones having the serious problems though.

I found the above two comments a bit annoying. There is no way that garlic (for goodness sakes!) or magnesium would stop my AF and it would be very dangerous to consider either instead of either Warfarin or Pradaxa.

Blank 21 Sep 2011 7:57pm #5
offline ten bob

Member since 11 Feb 2009

Member from Palmerston North

Posts: 269


"Magnesium is essential to heart health...Magnesium helps maintain a normal heart rhythm and is sometimes given intravenously (IV) in the hospital to reduce the chance of atrial fibrillation and cardiac arrhythmia"
University Of Maryland
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/magnesium-000313.htm

17472-23638730 21 Sep 2011 8:05pm #6
online Silverfern

Member since 04 Oct 2007

Member from Te Awamutu

Posts: 5515

Jaxy ....glad youre intelligent enough not to take any notice of ten bob...he has some weird ideas.rolleyesrolleyes

Blank 21 Sep 2011 8:41pm #7
offline ten bob

Member since 11 Feb 2009

Member from Palmerston North

Posts: 269

University Of Maryland is a weird institution alright. rolleyes

Anyway, Warfarin is an ANTICOAGULANT.
Magnesium is taken for heart RHYTHM.

53709-MMac 27 Feb 2012 8:33am #8
offline majorminor

Member since 19 Sep 2010

Member from Napier

Posts: 430

Here is a C&P of interest;

Steer clear of this dangerous new blood thinner

Looking to slash your risk of a stroke? Good news, folks -- you can... and all you need to do is give yourself a heart attack instead.

Yes, that's every bit as crazy as it sounds, yet that's EXACTLY what the mainstream wants you to do -- especially if you suffer from an irregular heartbeat.

Here's the deal: Patients with atrial fibrillation have a higher risk of stroke to begin with, so docs have been switching them over to a new blood thinner called Pradaxa -- recently approved just for them.

A company-funded study (and you know what that's worth) claimed this med cut the risk of stroke by a little more than a third in a-fib patients -- and maybe it did. But the same study also found that it boosts the risk of a heart attack in the process.

This wasn't just a statistical hiccup -- it was more like a loud, ugly belch.

Cleveland Clinic researchers say their new study finds Pradaxa can up the odds of a heart attack by about a third when compared to warfarin (the old standard in blood thinners, a.k.a. rat poison).

Yet the same researchers who confirmed the link are telling people to keep taking it.

Outrageous!

Here's the REAL deal: You don't need to choose between heart attack and stroke risk -- and you don't need to choose between a dangerous new med and the same old rat poison.

Try cod liver oil instead. A naturopathic physician can help figure out your best dose, but two to three tablespoons per day will do the trick for most.

William Campbell Douglass II, M.D.

53709-MMac 02 Mar 2012 2:01pm #9
offline majorminor

Member since 19 Sep 2010

Member from Napier

Posts: 430

Wait - there is more;
C&P

Aspirin as dangerous as rat poison

Here's an easy way to make stomach-wrecking aspirin look downright reasonable: Just compare it to something even worse. That's always the story behind any study that gives aspirin a thumbs-up, and this latest one is no different.

This time, the headlines may as well read: "Aspirin better than rat poison!" Because that's exactly what the researchers compared it to.

Of course, they'll tell you they compared it to the blood thinner warfarin, but you and I know that this dangerous drug does double-duty as rat poison.

So it should come as no surprise that more than 12 percent in the warfarin group dropped dead, suffered a stroke, or were hospitalized for serious heart problems, including heart attack and heart failure.

No, the noteworthy part of this study is that the aspirin group had the same 12-percent rate of death, stroke, and serious heart problems as the rat poison group! And this is a med that's touted as a one-a-day drug to prevent heart problems! The truth is, daily aspirin use can actually CAUSE the very clots it's supposed to prevent.

Seems to me like a more appropriate headline would be, "Aspirin just as dangerous as rat poison!"

With results like these, does it matter to you that the warfarin patients had more serious bleeding problems than those in the aspirin group? I didn't think so!

So forget trying to figure out which is the lesser of two evils, and skip them both.

There are natural options available for thinning your blood that can slash your heart and stroke risk.

Plain old cod liver oil will do the job just fine.

And while you're at it, eat more fish.

Keeping up the beat,

William Campbell Douglass II, M.D.


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