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Member since 11 Oct 2006
Member from Wainuiomata
Posts: 1018
No. Not ever.
Member since 02 Nov 2006
Member from Linwood
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Nor I
Member since 09 May 2008
Member from Palmerston North
Posts: 2331
No from me as well
Member since 02 Feb 2007
Member from Mangere Central
Posts: 10243
or me.
Member since 09 Dec 2006
Member from Te Awamutu
Posts: 3426
Reluctantly I do. I am not in favour of it but it seems to be the only thing left. And despite all the dogooders and P C brigades, I still believe that if you know you stand a good chance of learning the rope dance or similar, you WILL think twice about killing somebody.
What it WON'T stop of course are what has been described a crime of passion. There was a time when I found it hard to understand that one, but, I have to admit that I came VERY close, far to close, to doing just that myself. That was when I found out that my first wife was playing the field again. And I set out to put the boyfriend under ground. (the wrong party I will add) What makes that one so scary is this.
We have all heard of people seeing red, or going berserk. But, 99.999 % of the time, people only go up to that edge. but there is that 0.001 % of people who go OVER that edge. I DID, and believe me, that is a very dangerous state to be in. When I went round to his place, I had every intention of putting him six feet under. I hit him once, and if he had reacted ANY other way than he did, I would have finished him. But, and I say this deliberately, it was only by the grace of God that I didn't.
Now, when I went to his place, I KNEW it would make no difference, I KNEW I would not feel any better, I KNEW I would have to face the consequences. But it was just something that HAD TO BE DONE.
That is what I mean when I say it is a VERY dangerous condition to be in. I was completely in control of myself. I knew EXACTLY what I was doing. But I was totally EMPTY of any feelings.
And an afterthought on that one. A few days later my wife told me that if he did NOT come back, it was all over between us. Enough said.
But back to subject.
Any premeditated murder, and in that category comes also any crime that involves death. Be it robbery, assault, rape, drink driving, or any other. All of them. After all if you had NOT committed that crime, the other person would still be alive. Simple as that. And NO excuses.
And, it has been said that there would be no repeat offenders.
And, we would HAVE to make a few well published examples, but then, when it becomes obvious that we mean business, there WOULD be a drop in the murder rate.
Member since 08 Sep 2008
Member from Annesbrook
Posts: 236
Yes,for child killers. Sorry to hear or your situation chris21-4. You must have enormous self control. now that's its all past you must be relieved.
Member since 28 Oct 2006
Member from Christchurch CBD
Posts: 1093
And who is to push the button, or do the injection, or whatever? Does the fact that it is legal make it any less murder? What about all the miscarriages of justice? I think that life imprisonment, without parole, should be punishment enough. I don't mean the touch feely imprisonment we seem to have today, instead hard labour, plain food, no TV in the cells, no tobacco.
Member since 31 May 2007
Member from Palmerston North
Posts: 2089
This is a hard, tough question, no matter how you look at it.
We've come a long way since people were hanged for stealing a loaf of bread, or similar.
But so far there is no answer to the capital-punishment question that won't upset some people, or seem unsatisfactory or inhumane. But then, how humane is cold-blooded murder?
Member since 19 Dec 2006
Member from Hampden
Posts: 6355
Gidday
"What about all the miscarriages of justice? I think that life imprisonment,"
Is it no just as bad to let some scum bag go out and kill again and again ;like has happened? Is that no a worse miscarriage of justice when the second murder is the fresponsibility of the justice system.
Hang the buggers. Ocker will pull the lever.
Member since 09 Dec 2006
Member from Te Awamutu
Posts: 3426
Madcow, that was thirty years ago, It don't hurt no more, I can even talk to her on the odd occasion I meet up with her, but you never forget these things.
I agree there must be absolute certainty, But, certainly in cases where one is caught in the act, though not common, no problem.
Member since 29 Feb 2008
Member from Christchurch CBD
Posts: 12537
what about bastards like this , Guards actually wrote letters telling the authorities that this swine boasted he would rape and kill again when released
And the authorities still went ahead and let him loose !!!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4654178/Guards-warned-about-offenders-next-victim
ps ---every city should have its own "DEXTER "
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Member since 29 Jun 2006
Member from Papamoa
Posts: 67
i would like to see the death penalty introduced for certain murders such as pemeditated ones and ones that there is no doubt
There could be a referendum at the same time as the general elections
Do you agree with the introduction of it