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3626-house_006 15 Feb 2011 7:19pm #1
offline blinky

Member since 29 Jun 2006

Member from Papamoa

Posts: 67

i would like to see the death penalty introduced for certain murders such as pemeditated ones and ones that there is no doubt
There could be a referendum at the same time as the general elections
Do you agree with the introduction of it

7120-avatar 15 Feb 2011 8:21pm #2
offline cameo

Member since 11 Oct 2006

Member from Wainuiomata

Posts: 1018

No. Not ever.

9005-joy_child 15 Feb 2011 8:24pm #3
offline Joybel

Member since 02 Nov 2006

Member from Linwood

Posts: 26078

Nor I

23184-01080250 15 Feb 2011 8:31pm #4
offline KiwiChick

Member since 09 May 2008

Member from Palmerston North

Posts: 2331

No from me as well

11679-mona_manuel_resize 15 Feb 2011 8:32pm #5
online Mona

Member since 02 Feb 2007

Member from Mangere Central

Posts: 10243

or me.

10379-onsantasknee 15 Feb 2011 8:40pm #6
offline Chris21-4

Member since 09 Dec 2006

Member from Te Awamutu

Posts: 3426

Reluctantly I do. I am not in favour of it but it seems to be the only thing left. And despite all the dogooders and P C brigades, I still believe that if you know you stand a good chance of learning the rope dance or similar, you WILL think twice about killing somebody.
What it WON'T stop of course are what has been described a crime of passion. There was a time when I found it hard to understand that one, but, I have to admit that I came VERY close, far to close, to doing just that myself. That was when I found out that my first wife was playing the field again. And I set out to put the boyfriend under ground. (the wrong party I will add) What makes that one so scary is this.
We have all heard of people seeing red, or going berserk. But, 99.999 % of the time, people only go up to that edge. but there is that 0.001 % of people who go OVER that edge. I DID, and believe me, that is a very dangerous state to be in. When I went round to his place, I had every intention of putting him six feet under. I hit him once, and if he had reacted ANY other way than he did, I would have finished him. But, and I say this deliberately, it was only by the grace of God that I didn't.
Now, when I went to his place, I KNEW it would make no difference, I KNEW I would not feel any better, I KNEW I would have to face the consequences. But it was just something that HAD TO BE DONE.
That is what I mean when I say it is a VERY dangerous condition to be in. I was completely in control of myself. I knew EXACTLY what I was doing. But I was totally EMPTY of any feelings.
And an afterthought on that one. A few days later my wife told me that if he did NOT come back, it was all over between us. Enough said.
But back to subject.
Any premeditated murder, and in that category comes also any crime that involves death. Be it robbery, assault, rape, drink driving, or any other. All of them. After all if you had NOT committed that crime, the other person would still be alive. Simple as that. And NO excuses.
And, it has been said that there would be no repeat offenders.
And, we would HAVE to make a few well published examples, but then, when it becomes obvious that we mean business, there WOULD be a drop in the murder rate.

Blank 15 Feb 2011 8:52pm #7
offline czar

Member since 08 Sep 2008

Member from Annesbrook

Posts: 236

Yes,for child killers. Sorry to hear or your situation chris21-4. You must have enormous self control. now that's its all past you must be relieved.

8068-gups_pic 15 Feb 2011 9:26pm #8
offline Desi

Member since 28 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 1093

And who is to push the button, or do the injection, or whatever? Does the fact that it is legal make it any less murder? What about all the miscarriages of justice? I think that life imprisonment, without parole, should be punishment enough. I don't mean the touch feely imprisonment we seem to have today, instead hard labour, plain food, no TV in the cells, no tobacco.

14302-Blue_hills 15 Feb 2011 9:35pm #9
offline Kari

Member since 31 May 2007

Member from Palmerston North

Posts: 2089

This is a hard, tough question, no matter how you look at it.
We've come a long way since people were hanged for stealing a loaf of bread, or similar.
But so far there is no answer to the capital-punishment question that won't upset some people, or seem unsatisfactory or inhumane. But then, how humane is cold-blooded murder?

10741-littl_e_jack_2 15 Feb 2011 10:17pm #10
offline Old Jack

Member since 19 Dec 2006

Member from Hampden

Posts: 6355

Gidday

"What about all the miscarriages of justice? I think that life imprisonment,"

Is it no just as bad to let some scum bag go out and kill again and again ;like has happened? Is that no a worse miscarriage of justice when the second murder is the fresponsibility of the justice system.

Hang the buggers. Ocker will pull the lever.

10379-onsantasknee 15 Feb 2011 11:00pm #11
offline Chris21-4

Member since 09 Dec 2006

Member from Te Awamutu

Posts: 3426

Madcow, that was thirty years ago, It don't hurt no more, I can even talk to her on the odd occasion I meet up with her, but you never forget these things.

I agree there must be absolute certainty, But, certainly in cases where one is caught in the act, though not common, no problem.

20818-Garfield11 15 Feb 2011 11:40pm #12
online ocker

Member since 29 Feb 2008

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 12537

what about bastards like this , Guards actually wrote letters telling the authorities that this swine boasted he would rape and kill again when released
And the authorities still went ahead and let him loose !!!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4654178/Guards-warned-about-offenders-next-victim

ps ---every city should have its own "DEXTER "


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