Bryan, Your post 298, I take your point in this matter and agree Pike River families have had to bear up through this whole harrowing Tragedy as well as The Royal Commission The weight of evidence is huge and what will be its outcome we will have to see.

It also seems to have to do with the design of the mine itself; that it was constructed with an upward sloping shaft and no viable escape routes out.

It looks as if it were undercapitalized right from the start and developed and run on the cheap.

That alone seems reprehensible to me.

"BTW I was not impressed with the Counsel for Management complaining that "Management" had been turned into "Scapegoats"! If the "Buck" doesn't stop with Management then where the hell does it stop??"


Excellent point Bryan. They surely are ultimately responsible - or should be.

And whatever the cause,I think more strenuous efforts do need to be made to bring the bodies out of Pike river mine. It doesn't seem too much to expect given what those poor families have had to endure.

Would not a mine opened on NZ territory have been controlled by NZ rules and laws regarding all matters pertaining to its organisation and running methods. It must have received the nod from whatever Govt, Dept. was in the Chair at the time. No complaints appear to have surfaced about practices until the fateful day.

Has there ever been such an extensive inquiry into a mine disaster as this one as it is not the first one, In this day and age they still happen around the world, but this one has gone on for months and months with a desperation not seen before. Is the law the ass in this ongoing saga ?

They are going to build yet another memorial. We already have two specifically for Pike and a generic one at Brunner for all miners lost. We don't want another (insert choice of expletives) memorial!
WE WANT OUR MEN OUT!!!!

"They are going to build yet another memorial."


Unbelievable OKK - that must be just about the very last thing needed now.
Why the hell can't they put the money another memorial will cost towards the cost of getting them out instead?!

Gidday

Old Kiwi Kid, that reminds me of the Erebus disaster. The people to die because of that were not all on the plane. A friend of our family had their son on the plane and the way the media kept it in the news for so long, caused the mother to fet to herself death as well, so it probably happend to other mothers as well.

I can just immagine that the same may well happen to some of those poor families to.

Despite the assurances of politicians that they'd 'do all in their power' to get the bodies home,not a lot has happened.
Perhaps its going to be left up to Coasters to do it themselves.

Why are we not surprised that Prime Minister John Key would not discuss tonight on TV3 why he and his Government deleted a crucial clause in Solid Energys buyout of Pike River Mines when He originally told the families"We will bring your Boys Home and that will be in any contract of sale.John Key and his Government have dealt a cruel blow to The West Coast and Pike River Families once again.

The government handling of the Pike Mine disaster has been abysmal. I am beginning to feel ashamed of our glorious leaders and their attitudes

Wingspanner, John Key and his entourage were all over the Coasters when it was election time and there were hundreds of photos of him standing by the Coast with his famous hollow words.I never forgot the national service with him and the entourage high in the stands beside the bosses @ the racetrack and all the workers on the Lawn below.Pike River Coal management has certainly been found wanting.

It will be a brave man that try's to take out a truck load of coal from that mine without a commitment that 29 bodies will follow!