The "NZ Centre of Political Research" has a petition doing the rounds online for people concerned about the "Foreshore and Seabed" issue. Please copy the link below and insert in your browser and read what it is about. It is Urgent!

http://www.nzcpr.com/petition_fandsb.php

It has only been running a few days and already over 3000 have signed it, for anonyminity you can just use your initials, so all that is required is: Initials, Area, Email address.

Or you can just Google "Foreshore and Seabed Petition"

Post deleted at 03 May 2010 10:13am by GrownUps Administrator

angela 10 - are you trying to introduce some corruption into the "Foreshore and Seabed" issue?

Hi folks, the Foreshore & Seabed has stepped up a notch and is now called a petition/campaign, we have one last chance to gather enough signatures by approx mid August, we are starting a nationwide campaign called "Save Our Beaches" A short summary of what is happening! The National Govt is planning to take the F&S out of Crown ownership where we ALL had the opportunity to enjoy, access, development and mineral resources. And effectively placing it under Maori control - where who knows? If you have any qualms about the beaches being under Maori control you should join the 6,000 that have signed the nationwide online petition ASAP. http://www.nzcpr.com/petition_fandsb.php

OR you can just google - save our beaches campaign

And please spread the word because you will not get another chance to secure it in Crown Ownership.

Save our beaches! From Maori? What do you envisage will happen if by some miracle the Government allows Maori the control - which they formerly had anyway. What is so diferent or frightening about Maori supposedly controlling the foreshore and seabed as compared with the Government anyway?
Most New Zealanders have now acquired a taste for the seafood which was once plentiful for all people at one time but which Government control has resulted in the depletion of these wonderful resources by allowing them to be exported in vast quantities and consequently making most barely available for anyone in New Zealand.
What once was purely a Maori domain like most of the land in New Zealand was by strokes of a pen literally stolen from Maori. History is rife with such occurrences, only that history was never taught in schools and so the majority of New Zealanders are completely ignorant of what really happened.

Such ignorance has resulted from supposedly successful school social studies curriculums that successive governments kept espousing as being the key to building positive and binding relationships between Pakeha and Maori. Obviously they were not successful.
Rest assured that no Government will allow Maori to control any aspect of whatever in this country not even their own destiny.

Please remember that not all Grown-up members are non-Maori,

Answer to Tiki's Question: Windfall benefits to coastal tribes would include abilities to undertake monopolistic commercial activities, charge other people fees for use or development of the foreshore and seabed, exercise unaccountable veto rights based on an undefined “Maori world view”, insert their own imperative foreshore and seabed management plans into the official plans of democratically elected local authorities, ban people from supposed Maori burial sites and places of recent drownings, and challenge conservation areas such as marine reserves. The government’s proposed foreshore and seabed “reform” will in practice be an open license for privileged Maori tribes to print money and boss other New Zealanders around. To prevent this go to www.CoastalCoalition.co.nz

Tiki
Since the Maori killed raped and plundered the Moriori's I cannot see why they think they have the sole rights to this country of ours. It is the Maori's that should be taking a back seat as they are the adversaries.
If you watch Coastwatch on T.V.One on Monday night you will notice that the majority of those caught poaching or taking over the limit of Paua etc are Maori's. Now who are the biggest pillagers of our seas?
I also notice that the Mongrel Mob use Aotearoa as their gang name this tells me that New Zealand is for for New Zealanders and Aotearoa is a gang symbol.

All I know is that we ordainary folks cannot enjoy the beautiful fish such as blue cod, crayfish, whitebait, that we could once catch till our hearts content. Now we have to buy it at collossal prices, beyond most people's means.
No doubt through what Tiki suggests as the government exports most of it, and we have to pay export prices, just like our dairy products. In the meantime we have to accept imported crap, that I will have nothing to do with.
I don't think it should be 'owned' but accessable to everyone in this country, so we can all still enjoy the beaches, do a bit of surfing and fishing, it's part of our way of life.

gayebelle

Spoken like a true Kiwi. If only every New Zealander had the brains to understand this we would then truly be a united country,but as long as one side keep screwing the rest of us and trying to bankrupt this Country
we will always be a divided nation.

Earlier this year Desi & I enjoyed the bounty of Crayfish and other fish to be caught on the Kaikoura Coast at Goose Bay Heaven by our Friends Kingfisher & Lyn or Captain Bligh and the crew of the SS TITANIC..Kingfisher posted photos of his Crayfish Clothes Line There are still great places to catch fish around NZ. A few years ago I used to enjoy Snapper and blue cod from The Marlborough Sounds.

Hey Benny - I find your comments racist and offensive

Mitzi Colville

I would suggest you spring into the real world and work out how much money succesive Governments have thrown at Maori to shut them up. New Zealand will never get out of the red as long as we have to throw our hard earned cash at Maori's so that they can sink it into friviolous businesses that produce nil returns.