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23184-01080250 01 Jul 2012 10:42am #11593
offline KiwiChick

Member since 09 May 2008

Member from Palmerston North

Posts: 2358

But Freemind many from different cultures pay tax just like the rest of us so therefore they are entitled to have their own TV channel are they not?

43955-25719_med 01 Jul 2012 10:53am #11594
online arandar

Member since 23 Nov 2009

Member from Stratford

Posts: 4572

I support absolutely a Public Service TV and Radio Broadcaster.

I support absolutely our right to have at least one commercial-free option.

I support absolutely our right to have at least some programs that are not 'commercial' or in other words 'entertainment' but rather educative, challenging, demanding our intellectual involvement and homegrown dramas, entertainment, soaps and series - programs about us, by us, for us. And that's all of us in all our variety and difference.

If I never see another programme like Masterchef, Something Idol, 'Freak' Show, CSI, Home or Person Makeover or Infomercial it'll be too soon.

As a journalist I learnt, to my cost, how much influence the advertiser, who pays the bills, has on editorial content.

Freedom to criticize?

Not too much.

Blank 01 Jul 2012 10:55am #11595
offline freemind

Member since 07 Sep 2006

Member from Beckenham

Posts: 529

Yes !, They pay tax,But whats that got to do with the state spending taxpayers money promoting culture ,which is usually promoting one culture to the detriment of others. All cultures are entitled to their own TV channels providing they pay for it themselves.

3582-avatar_1_copy 01 Jul 2012 11:31am #11596
offline Belladonna

Member since 29 Jun 2006

Member from Shirley

Posts: 6892

So...no culture for Freemind then?

Ah...there's a surprise!rolleyesmrgreen

7580-StanleyWedding011 01 Jul 2012 12:34pm #11597
offline Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 17426

Save TV7 or SAVE Public Broadcasting TV & Radio campaign has been racked up a few more notches as an election Issue.I am looking forward to Mai Chens representation of the Lobby Group.She says TVNZ Has a case to answer. The Group say that although litigation was an option the Lobby Group has limited funds. The Group says TVNZ has neglected its legal duty to regard the Public Interest in deciding what programmes to screen. TVNZ are required to provide high quality content Clearly public service Television ie TVNZ7 with all its quality documentaries and educational programmes is in the public good. So then The SaveTVNZ7 Lobby Group are about to lay a formal complaint Great to see Kim Dotcom joining the mock funeral procession yesterday saying his favourite show was on TVNZ7.

43955-25719_med 01 Jul 2012 1:10pm #11598
online arandar

Member since 23 Nov 2009

Member from Stratford

Posts: 4572

Freemind, you're confusing two things - Maori TV is commercial TV. Some of its programs are funded by NZ on Air - the taxpayer. Some of it is funded by advertising. It is not a 'Public Broadcaster' as such.

I'm Maori. I pay tax. I pay quite a bit of tax as it happens. I want at least some of my tax spent on Public Broadcasting including programmes about, by and for my country including Maori.

17472-23638730 01 Jul 2012 1:40pm #11599
online Silverfern

Member since 04 Oct 2007

Member from Te Awamutu

Posts: 8293

...besides, it has some of the best programmes on TV, especially now TV7 has been closed

43955-25719_med 01 Jul 2012 3:28pm #11600
online arandar

Member since 23 Nov 2009

Member from Stratford

Posts: 4572

Yes.
That too.

16188-CIMG2639tiny 01 Jul 2012 5:39pm #11601
offline wekanz

Member since 13 Aug 2007

Member from Kapiti

Posts: 842

SF and arandar, I agree with you. And belladonna too. I love watching a lot of the content on Maori Television, and enjoyed it while we had TVNZ7 too. Glad to hear that we are likely to get it back with a change of government when that happens, too.

43955-25719_med 01 Jul 2012 6:07pm #11602
online arandar

Member since 23 Nov 2009

Member from Stratford

Posts: 4572

What I'd love to see is a Public Broadcasting SOE, incorporating RNZ and The Concert Programme, and TVNZ7 and the Maori Channel, freely available to all.

As far as I can see, TV1 has fallen too far to be worth worrying about; it's thoroughly commercial, thoroughly populist, thoroughly 'lowest common denominator' programming. The few programmes I really like are mostly on at impossible times; ghettoized late at night or on Sunday mornings.

Thanks be for MySky or I'd never see any of them. And I love that I am watching when I like, and fast forwarding through their bloody commercials. Haven't seen one for months. Good job too. But I am well aware not everyone can afford to have MySky and to have the choice.

And we all should be able to see and hear the sorts of programmes we like.

Everyone else in the 1st and 2nd world seems to be able to. Why not us?

16188-CIMG2639tiny 01 Jul 2012 6:42pm #11603
offline wekanz

Member since 13 Aug 2007

Member from Kapiti

Posts: 842

A public broadcasting SOE as you suggest would be fantastic, arandar. All good. And I agree about TV1, too.........most of what's on it is absolutely dreadful.........and NOW, it's all going to be broadcast TWICE!!

43955-25719_med 01 Jul 2012 7:17pm #11604
online arandar

Member since 23 Nov 2009

Member from Stratford

Posts: 4572

Thinking further about it, I suppose an SOE isn't the right vehicle, SOEs are set up to be government owned commercial enterprises using best business practice and returning dividends to the stakeholders - the taxpayers.

And that business/commercial model is what I want to get away from frankly.

I want a true Public Broadcasting model - BBC, ABC, CBC type broadcasting. I don't want commercials. I don't want government interference. I want independent journalism and film- and doco-making. I want new dramas and soaps to get their start here. If they go gangbusters like Outrageous Fortune for eg or Shortland Street or Xena; well and good, the PB could then sell it to a commercial channel like TV1 as well as overseas and reinvest the profits in other new programmes.

And we could have Back Benchers back and Media 7 and Q&A and The Nation and Marae Investigates at civilized hours on a channel everyone could get and the week's programmes could be published so we'd know what was coming on when.

RNZ airs great radio docos from the USA public broadcaster and the Canadian - but they're on latish at night and I don't always know they're on. I usually catch the last 10 mins of them on the car radio driving home from a meeting - very frustrating.


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