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12753-avatar 21 May 2012 8:02am #11089
offline Squirter

Member since 18 Mar 2007

Member from Papakura

Posts: 9425

G'day Dutchy,

I just had a look and you are right with the number of houses to rent in Christchurch.

This dr. joker just loves playing with peoples political emotions on here, it satisfies his gargantuan ego love and most of us are awake to his antics as he's only fooling his himself.

Cheers love. biggrin

7580-StanleyWedding011 21 May 2012 8:48am #11090
online Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16833

Dutchy, With respect to your comments the optimum word here is AFFORDABLE. There were over 540 people on state and social housing lists in Christchurch on May 3rd.with welfare agencies saying that figure does not reflect the true crisis of homelessness.There are 303 people in serious need on the Housing NZ waiting list and 237 on The Christchurch City Council List. Respectable social agencies like Comcare and The City Missioner and Tenants Protection Association & The Salvation Army, don,t make things up You need to understand the whole picture.I do not make things up when I quote the reality of homelessness in Christchurch.

7580-StanleyWedding011 21 May 2012 9:57am #11091
online Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16833

Dutchy, Further to my other post. There was a crisis meeting in Christchurch between Politicians and welfare agencies and quake residents on May 9th @ KNOX Hall. Anglican Care social Justice Enabler Jolyon White said officials needed to ensure the citys most marginalised residents were looked after during the recovery. Christchurchs rental crisis could force poorer residents into ghettos in the East of the City.And "A Cheap rental is still unaffordable for the population we are talking about." Poor residents could be forced back into quake damaged properties in the east if these problems were not addressed.
There are many people still living in their homes in the East a lot waiting TC3 decisionsThe government says Let the market sort it out.There would not be a problem in The East if insurers, EQC, CERA, got on with it.People who can afford it get out of the East.The East is still a lovely place.

15811-dec_2010_3 21 May 2012 11:04am #11092
offline Dutchy

Member since 30 Jul 2007

Member from Mosgiel

Posts: 924

"A Cheap rental is still unaffordable for the population we are talking about."

I never said you were making it up, all I said whas, that I wondered why......The problem you quote has always been there, even before the earthquake and certainly before this government. I wonder again how in a similar situation your party would have solved the problem. The problem exists and always has, in all cities, in all countries and are not always earthquake related. If cheap rental is not affordable, where did those people live before? For most of them, their problem existed already well before the earthquake. Unfortunately it has accumulated because of it, but if there are 998 houses for rent and not all expensive ones, some people must be able to move on. I do realise how devastating the whole situation is for a lot of people and I feel very sorry for them.

7580-StanleyWedding011 21 May 2012 1:13pm #11093
online Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16833

Dutchy, On some matters as good Grownups should do we shall have to agree to disagree.
National Business Review wrote on March 19th about A looming rental crisis that Aucklanders are bidding up rents in the face of a construction hiatus and Christchurch is facing an accomodation crisis as thousands of houses start to be demolished.The blame may be sheeted home to lack of developer funding with the demise of finance companies.But affordability is equally significant.The rental crisis in Christchurch is looming ahead of the April 2013 deadline for approximately 6000 redzone residents.It also threatens the rebuild if workers cannot find accomodation.We have been hearing about Redzone renters going to Open Homes through the internet and newspapers only to find dozens of people vying for the same property
Grownups Renters have told us about being given the push after years of being a great tenant by their landlord on the pretext of selling the property only to find him hiking the rent readvertising it and its a greedy landlords dream out there. UBS Economist Robin Clements is calling for the Government to take a more interventionist approach.

Blank 21 May 2012 2:10pm #11094
offline benny

Member since 31 Jan 2007

Member from Mosgiel

Posts: 6708

How can he fool himself when he is a fool. Us Mosgiel people are so much ahead of the eight ball we always seem to leave the Cantabrians a long way in our wake.

On the matter of the Shane Jones Billie Liu saga which I mentioned last week and the presidentio of this Labour group couldn't make a comment because I got in first I hope now he will be able to clear up with all of us the difference between Shane Jones going against the wishes of the Immigration Dept and John Banks doing similar.. I only hope that the presidentio can explain it in less than four pages. I don't really want him to regurgitate Shearers crap I want the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Blank 21 May 2012 2:19pm #11095
offline Waimak1

Member since 29 Jun 2006

Member from Leithfield Beach

Posts: 201

Dutchy. Granddaughter and husband and 3 children, rental $250 weekly. received notice from owner rental will be $450 per week. If not paid treat 28 days as offical notice.

They have been to 7 houses and the smallest number of hopefull tenants was 19 people. Put 900 plus houses aval against 7000 plus more to follow that are major repair or rebuilds and 900 plus simply does not tally.

Blank 21 May 2012 4:14pm #11096
offline benny

Member since 31 Jan 2007

Member from Mosgiel

Posts: 6708

What an hillarious afternoon we have had . We have listened to Parker telling us

WE WILL NOT SELL ASSETS


WE WILL NOT BORROW WE WILL HAVE THIS COUNTRY IN THE BLACK BY 2014.

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS

HOW ARE WE TO DO IT?

THE GREENS HAVE TOLD US IT IS SO EASY

PRINT THE MONEY PRINT MONEY PRINT MONEY PRINT MONEY PRINT MONEY

Remember I told you a couple of weeks ago Rusty Norman said they would do this and now Parker has been told by Rusty if he does this the Greens will make sure Labour get in next Election and the Greens will back them to the hilt.

NEW ZEALAND UNDER THE NEW GREEBOUR PARTY is DOOMED

THE NEW COLOURS FOR THIS NEW POLITICAL PARTY IS RED OVER GREEN

BUT IT WILL DEPEND OF COURSE WHICH PARTY WOULD GET THE MOST SEATS IF IT IS THE OTHER WAY ROUND THEN THE COLOURS WOULD BE GREEN OVER RED.



7580-StanleyWedding011 21 May 2012 4:22pm #11097
online Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16833

Waimak1, I,ve just been reading about a landlord who was charging $520.00 per week for his house upping it to $690.00 per week and believing its fair in the market.
I have also been hearing about Canterburys mental health patients who are struggling to find somewhere to live because of fierce competition for rental houses.At a Canterbury District Health Board meeting recently members discussed the impact of the regions housing shortage on mental health patients terminally ill and people with other disabilities.Planning andFunding Manager Carolyn Gullery @CDHB. said it was a challenge for people to compete for housing in the current environment.Plus so much of the available housing stock is inaccessible.It is already tough enough for a lot of people who are unwell in our community.One Bedroom places are in really short supply

Blank 21 May 2012 4:43pm #11098
offline Hero42

Member since 18 Jul 2008

Member from Porirua

Posts: 4995

My word Benny is really upset that 45% of the population support Labour and the Greens and only 44.5% support National.

I wonder if Benny will be asking John to get into bed with Winston to stay in power. rolleyes

Cheers biggrin

7580-StanleyWedding011 21 May 2012 5:01pm #11099
online Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16833

Labours Leader David Shearer campaigned on raising the retirement age at the last election.David Shearer says the existing pension age is unsustainable @65. David Shearer says there are 5.6 people working for every retired person and in less than 30 years there will be about 2.5 working people.
Nationals zero budget this week means zero growth in the economy.
This National Governments record was the worst growth record of any government in 50 years.There were 50,000 more on benefits and more than 53,600 have left NZ. For Australia.

15811-dec_2010_3 21 May 2012 5:40pm #11100
offline Dutchy

Member since 30 Jul 2007

Member from Mosgiel

Posts: 924

I agree to disagree on some points Dr.L.
Where the increased rents are concerned, there lies the problem of the severe increases in Insurances and rates for the landlords. The value of the houses has in a lot of cases gone up as well, hence the increasing rates and the possibillity for landlords to gain by selling the property. The rent increases you, Dr.L. and Waimak are mentioning are over the top, certainly in Waimak's case.
From personal experience: I do have a rental property in Rangiora with great tenants, who look after the property very well. The value of the property has risen with 15% in the past year, but also the rates and the recent insurance bill was up from $604,= to $864,=. I hate to see the new rates increases. I had to increase the rent with $15,= last year and I might have to increase it slightly again. I will certainly take the position of the tenants into account, who are through no fault of their own in this position, but so are the landlords. I would like to cover costs. What I will not do is take advantage of the situation. Other landlords might. I don't think the rent-increases mentioned in the above posts are warranted.


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