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Blank 17 May 2012 9:55pm #11053
offline benny

Member since 31 Jan 2007

Member from Mosgiel

Posts: 6708

We keep ours in the longdrop in case of emergencies.

Blank 17 May 2012 10:04pm #11054
offline tahi

Member since 08 Sep 2006

Member from Kamo

Posts: 903

Sure have Doc. This petition is going to be a very important event. The final number will not only be very surprising, it will be another "poll" showing how things will turn very quickly against dishonesty, a govt without integrity, govt members who display such cynical disregard for basic rules and regulations, and a govt who very quickly have shown their true colours.

Blank 18 May 2012 8:53am #11055
offline Hero42

Member since 18 Jul 2008

Member from Porirua

Posts: 5003

Dr L
I strikes me that John is turning NZ into a tax haven so he can be closer to his money. He doesn't want to pay tax on his millions but is worried that he might lose them in their overseas tax haven so he wants to bring them home.

Cheers biggrin

43955-25719_med 18 May 2012 10:14am #11056
offline arandar

Member since 23 Nov 2009

Member from Stratford

Posts: 4361

I don't know how tax havens work or what possible benefit they are to their host nations but I do think that if I had $$millions to breed I'd be buying 'can't fail' concrete assets, oh I dunno, like power cos and ports and you know stuff other people made and everyone needs. Ka Ching!!

Blank 18 May 2012 10:28am #11057
offline benny

Member since 31 Jan 2007

Member from Mosgiel

Posts: 6708

So would I, and so would all these Labour Regime lot who are sooooooo jealous of those that have worked hard and invested wisely for their retirement . You have to feel sorry for the Labour club as they all seem to have lost their way in their self pity so they have to try and justify their existence by wasting so much space on showing how immature they are with the ways of todays world. They should get out of the past and do a bit of searching into todays climate otherwise they will finish up with stomach ulcers with all the worrying they tend to do.

Blank 18 May 2012 3:37pm #11058
offline Hero42

Member since 18 Jul 2008

Member from Porirua

Posts: 5003

Arandar
Usually the tax haven countries charge a small tax rate say 1% which generates income for doing nothing.

However the people who use tax havens are not as Benny claims people who have worked hard and saved for their retirement as those people generally have their money tied up in superannuation funds.

The people and companies who use tax havens are the ones who wish to avoid paying their fair share of costs towards the country they live or operate in. Or want to hide away the profits from their investment buying and selling so they pay minimal tax on those dealings.

Of course Benny may be the sort that doesn't mind paying more taxes or having less benefits because the super rich pay nothing toward the state but that would surprise me as he has complained in the past about how hard up he is.

Personally, as stated many times before, I prefer to pay my fair share.

Cheers biggrin

Blank 18 May 2012 4:45pm #11059
offline Hero42

Member since 18 Jul 2008

Member from Porirua

Posts: 5003

Police have announced up to 125 support staff will lose their jobs as they try to "fine tune" the number of non-sworn personnel.

Commissioner Peter Marshall said the police budget would not be cut next financial year but they needed to make "modest reductions" to live within their means.

He said Cost Centre managers had to find savings of three per cent in their operational budget, and four per cent in their non-sworn personnel budget before the end of the year.

Ah the things we give up for our tax cuts. eek

7580-StanleyWedding011 18 May 2012 5:23pm #11060
away Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16866

Hero42, Where are all the jobs this lying lot promised? They are continuing to put New Zealanders out of work at pace now its Police, Soon it will be Teachers. and encouraging Kiwis to emigrate to Australia , 53,000 and climbing.Don,t you notice the silence from National & Acts supporters on these threads defending an apalling record of ethics,& principles.No economic vision. Just Tax Cuts and Tax Havens for Johns 1%.

7580-StanleyWedding011 18 May 2012 5:41pm #11061
away Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16866

John Key down in the polls. There is only one poll that counts. But John keep on supporting John Banks and lowering the standards required of Ministers. This poll reflects New Zealand is tiring of your Spin.

252 18 May 2012 5:46pm #11062
away Jens

Member since 03 May 2006

Member from Point Chevalier

Posts: 2730

Joybel, if according to your posting #11004 your girls save only for travelling - and save nothing for a "rainy day" - and then you suggest that NZ Super should be means tested - don't you think that is very egoistically selfish?

To think those who have successfully risked to save and invest should finance retirement welfare of those who saved only for immediate pleasure and nothing for security reserves in the future?

Well, there is no need to look at it that way as if we all should be all the time "scrooges".

So, I am pretty certain, that your apparently successful and enlightened girls, not keen to become investors personally, would support and feel relieved if govt. would organise saving and investing a modest proportion of their taxes on their behalf through the NZ Super Fund, so they also would participate in building up the security reserves and investment wealth of the country for the benefit of all, including their own, and not only for the poorest alone, and penalise the prudent through means testing?

7580-StanleyWedding011 18 May 2012 6:28pm #11063
away Dr Livingstone

Member since 22 Oct 2006

Member from Christchurch CBD

Posts: 16866

Jens, So you support John Keys Secret plans to turn NZ into a Tax Haven. John Keys Government funded in 2009 an advisory group led by Craig Stobo to tune of $500,000 and paid them $655.00 a day It came at a time when the Governments Capital Markets Taskforce expanded the zero tax idea into a plan to compete directly with tax havens in Luxembourg and The Cayman Islands. How did this benefit the 99%?

Blank 18 May 2012 6:39pm #11064
offline tahi

Member since 08 Sep 2006

Member from Kamo

Posts: 903

National 44.5 down 2.5
Labour 30 up 1.5
Greens 15 unchanged
NZ First 5.5 up .5
Act 0 down .5
Maori 1 down .5
Mana 0.5 unchanged
U F 1 up.5
Other parties 2.5


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