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Member since 26 Nov 2006
Member from Dobson
The Earth has been absorbing CO2 at such a rate that it is puzzling experts. Definition of an expert: x is the unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under pressure.
Member since 01 Jan 2009
Member from Tauranga
Ha ha, good one okk, very good indeed. We have to keep our sense of humour, lest the strain of all the D&G cripple us!
What an excellent article you've brought to our attention ocker, I cannot fault the guys argument, and it reinforces what I said recently, the ideas behind science are not difficult to understand, although admittedly the minutiae of the math etc can be trying. The "scientist" that came up with the complex "chemistry" behind the ozone hole over the Antarctic was rewarded with a Nobel Prize I believe, does this not strike you as 'political science' gone mad? Because of that, the whole world had to stop using CFC's! If you looked into the question of who benefited from that expensive exercise (Cui Bono?), what would you find I wonder?
Member since 29 Feb 2008
Member from Christchurch CBD
Tree-rings prove climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now - and world has been cooling for 2,000 years
Study of semi-fossilised trees gives accurate climate reading back to 138BC
Member since 18 Jul 2008
Member from Porirua
Surely the Ozone Hole issue is one which supports your view on experimental physicists.
The Ozone depletion is identified by observation. A chemical process that explains the depletion is identified in the lab with experimentation. The cause being CFCs and their use is then plotted against the increasing depletion and the results match.
CFCs are banned and the rate of depletion decreases as the CFCs work their way out of the atmosphere over the time period identified.
How can you complain about this when it follows the very method of observation and experimentation you say is the way to do science?
Hero: "The article tries and fails miserably to link the Ozone hole to new planets "
WTF have you been smoking hero?
Can you not understand what the rest of us can? The Ozone Hole is a myth, a made up problem that has no basis in the real world! Some people on this planet made a shit load of money by banning the extremely efficient CFC refrigerants and forcing everyone to use less efficient refrigerants, whatever it is they use today, and guess who forked out the money to these liars?
Mate, seriously, you need to get a life other than being an advisor that no one listens to.
follow the money !!
Thanks for another interesting article albeit badly reported by the media.
Check the line at the end of the article:
In so doing, the researchers have been able for the first time to precisely demonstrate that the long-term trend over the past two millennia has been towards climatic cooling.
Now check the closing line of the actual reort:
Further well-replicated MXD-based reconstructions are needed to better constrain the orbital forcing of millennial scale temperature trends and estimate the consequences to the ongoing evaluation of recent warming in a long-term context.
Note the words "ongoing evaluation of recent warming in a long-term context"
Then check the actual report at Nature Climate Change. The report is very technical but if you want to skip the detail scan down to the graphs about half way down the report and consider that the temperatures have been gradually cooling for 2,000 years and then spike upwards over the last 50 or so years, the scale is a bit hard to read.
What the report actually shows but that the Daily Mail didn't want to report (why spoil your editorial direction with the facts) is that the trend has been cooling until man made global warming kicked in and has reversed in so short a time span what nature had taken 2,000 years to achieve.
That is what is so worrying, the speed of the warming. It is unprecedented.
But a good scientific article. Thanks Again
KragusI would ask a simple question of you.If the ozone hole is a myth why didn't all the companies making money from producing CFCs not take the readily available scientific equipment to the poles and show that it was a myth?I wait you answer to this glaringly obvous question.Cheers
You can wait till the planet freezes over from Global Warming for all I care, but I won't pander to your BS!The answer is obvious if you have even half a brain.I'm sorry (yeah right), but I will not pander to your disinformation program that you have pushed since you first started your campaign on GU's.You are dead in the water mate, everyone is wise to your deception.
Another excellent revealing short video ocker, thank you mate:
Member since 25 Aug 2009
Member from Ponsonby
i have to admire you for not getting personal. even when they insult you.
looks like kragus asnt got an answer and i can see why.
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