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Member since 02 Nov 2006
Member from Linwood
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I have not read Erik Bakker so can't comment on herbal sedatives, meegeebee. I have nights where I find I am unable to sleep with leg pain. My neck is a constant pain but the leg just makes lying comfortably impossible. So far I just take two panadol and get up and watch tele for a while or walk around. I will check out Magnesium Citrate and let you know if it helps. Not sure that I would be happy with a sleeping pill.
Member since 02 Nov 2006
Member from Linwood
Posts: 23602
Wikipedia describes M.C. as a saline bowel cleanser before medical treatment, and all the other cites were in the same vein. However, I found this article, And I think one would need to find out if it clashes with prescription drugs. For instance water retention and blood pressure. It certainly makes a lot of claims.
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Member since 28 May 2009
Member from Wallaceville
Posts: 1308
Some people find that having a banana before they go to bed is helpful.
Member since 29 Apr 2010
Member from Northland Region
Posts: 3149
I'm a shocking sleeper but became concerned when my doctor suggested a sleeping pill or two. I don't know why but the thought of taking sleeping pills keeps me awake! 
Instead I decided to contact Leanne James, a naturopath at Ideal Health in Auckland, as she had been helpful with another problem I had had.
She sent me a herbal supplement that worked a treat.
I can't remember the name of it right now, but I think it was something like Deep Sleep.
Leanne is very helpful and is quite happy to give free advice via email . Her website is http://www.healthy.co.nz/ if anyone wants to do a bit of a search. Otherwise her email address is leanne@healthy.co.nz
Member since 29 Apr 2010
Member from Northland Region
Posts: 3149
Gigglebyte, I've heard that too. Apples as well.
When I was in hospital once a nurse told me that because they have to switch shifts (and sleep patterns have to change) they are taught this trick:
Strip off and stand beside your bed until you are cold. Once cold get into bed and turn the light out. (No reading or watching the telly). The nurse told me that once in bed, the body uses a lot of energy to warm up again and it induces sleep.
I haven't tried it personally. I'm not a pretty sight clothed, let alone naked...even in the dark!

Member since 28 May 2009
Member from Wallaceville
Posts: 1308
I know a couple who use a magnetic blanket- had a look at the blanket in the shops. It is not a cheap option. The blanket concerned costs about $300 !
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Member since 21 Jan 2007
Member from Napier
Posts: 916
I have read the article by Eric Bakker regarding sleep or rather the lack of it.I now fit into the category of a light sleeper who gets leg pain during the night.Even though we have just purchased a fleecy king size electric blanket.Can keep same on all night.Me I have to use a sleeping tablet,as does my wife.Eric mentions Magnesium Citrate.Has anyone tried any herbal sedative etc.And did it work for you?