- #1745323jensMemberMember since: May 3, 2006
Replies: 7746jens March 19, 2020 at 5:31 pm
Yes Hero42 – the more supplies we have “to keep us going”, the better prepared we are to cope with the emergency for a longer time.
So let us hope the current emergency will not become too big and long-lasting for us to run out of essential supplies.
Should we be at least mentally prepared for the possibility of some “thrift and sacrifice” being imposed on us by necessity ?#1745345halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 5035halcyon March 20, 2020 at 8:08 am
Good rain overnight. And more likely over the next few days. Hope this marks the end of the drought.
Interesting to read that Garden Centres have reported a run on vegetable plants. Maybe people are planning to garden as various sporting fixtures are postponed. Long may that change of behaviour last.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” (George Orwell, The Animal Farm)#1745353rob023MemberMember since: October 7, 2011
Replies: 1621rob023 March 20, 2020 at 1:05 pm
Greta Thunberg’s bound to be delighted now.
She’s got what she wanted.
Airplanes, industry, jobs, restaurants, transport, recreation, and schools are all shut down so much much less co2 is in the air.
Instead we have fear, poverty, misery, joblessness, economic ruin, and a bleak future.
It is a very stark lesson to all the Climate Change doomers of just what life will be like with no fossil fuel.
And given we can see China again is proof things clear up pretty rapidly.#1745354Hero42 March 20, 2020 at 3:40 pm
The reduction in CO2 emissions has been forced on us by Covid19 and has nothing to do with Greta Thunberg who you continue to vilify.
I would have thought you would have realised that a crisis like this is not the time for petty politics as some of our politicians discovered recently.
As to your claim that we have fear, poverty, misery, joblessness, economic ruin, and a bleak future that is a gross exaggeration intended no doubt to scare people from acting on climate change.
Fear, yes but that is from a disease we have no vaccines for.
Misery, that’s a personal choice and is related to the disease and I haven’t seen any misery from this.
Joblessness that will depend on how the governments of the world handle the issue. Hopefully they learnt from the GFC that austerity is not the way. Certainly our government has.
Economic ruin. No not ruin, just a down turn which will bounce back.
A bleak future. Yet to be seen but I seriously doubt it.
And of course this has nothing to do with a world without oil as the world has lots of oil given the OPEC production limitation agreement has broken down.
So this crisis will show us if the fear mongering that a world run on renewable energy rather than oil will be a disaster is true or not.
And this will be very relevant as some current projections based on usage show oil running out in 30 years, natural gas in 40 years and coal in 60 years if we increase production of coal to compensate for the end of oil and gas. Of course these figures are dependent on many factors such as the uptake of renewables and the price.
Cheers 🙂#1745355Hero42 March 20, 2020 at 3:46 pm
Rob023 does raise a good point about China and how quickly the air clears up. The same applies in the industrial regions of northern Italy and undoubtedly will in the US too. Possibly India and SE Asia too if the virus spreads there too and forces a lock down.
The fact that this change to our economic and manufacturing processes has been forced upon us by Covid19 will give the world a lot of information to show how the climate will react to changes in our behaviour and what we can effectively do without damaging our way of life.
It will be interesting to see how the world changes when the Covid19 crisis is over.
Will we see the world return to its old ways or will people who were living in pollution swamped cities realise what clean air is really like and demand change. The pollution grew slowly and its growth wasn’t easily noticed but now the difference is clear.
Cheers 🙂#1745360Hero42 March 20, 2020 at 4:26 pm
For years now the Working from Home concept has been suggested as a way of cutting down on travel, saving money for both employer and employee, increasing productivity, getting a better work life balance, allowing people to schedule life better.
But employers have resisted it for various reasons.
But now employers and employees might all get a chance to see if it works and how well it works both for us as individuals and for the companies.
For many companies and people I am sure it will deliver benefits although it doesn’t work for everyone.
So how big a change will we see, after the crisis is over, of people working from home part of the week or the whole week and cutting down on travel.
Will this crisis give society a big push and will we see a big change?
Cheers 🙂#1745401arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10864#1745665supergoldMemberMember since: May 9, 2009
Replies: 9176supergold March 26, 2020 at 2:56 pm
This was sent to me today from a very dear Grownups friend and I just had to share it with you.
Just to remind everyone that the last thing out of Pandora’s Box, was hope…..
‘IN THE TIME OF QUIET’, PHILIPPA ATKIN
No one’s told the daffodils about the pause to Spring
And no one’s told the birds to roost and asked them not to sing
No one’s asked the lazy bee to cease his bumbling round
And no one’s stopped the bright green shoots emerging through the ground.
No one’s told the sap to rest, deep within the wood
And stop the sleepy trees from waking, wreathed about in bud
No one’s told the sky to douse its brightest shades of blue
And stop the scudding clouds from puffing headlong into view.
No one’s asked the lambs to still the springs beneath their feet,
To stop their rapid rush and quell each joyful bleat
No one’s told the stream to halt its gurgle or its flow
And warned the playful breezes, not to gust and blow.
No one’s asked the raindrops not to fall upon the earth
And fail to quench the soil in the season of rebirth
No one’s locked the sun down, or dimmed the shimmer of the moon
And even in the darkest night, the stars are still immune.
Remember what you value, remember who is dear
Close the doors to danger and keep your family near
In the quiet all around us take the time to sit and stare
And wonder at the beauty unfurling everywhere.
Look towards the future, after the ordeal
And keep faith in Mother Nature’s power and will to heal.
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1745669kaiMemberMember since: January 4, 2008
Replies: 9505kai March 26, 2020 at 3:45 pm
That’s so lovely Supergold I would love to send it on to friends so can you please pm it to me if you can
many thanks 😊
Cheers From Kai
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