- #1742906supergoldMemberMember since: May 9, 2009
Replies: 9176supergold February 16, 2020 at 8:12 pm
Jens, please take your favourite subject to the thread you yourself created for the purpose of discussing wealth.
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1742916totaraMemberMember since: November 29, 2007
Replies: 575totara February 16, 2020 at 10:52 pm
Yes Jens. But who plants the apple trees?#1742918huiatahiMemberMember since: March 22, 2017
Replies: 1112huiatahi February 17, 2020 at 7:46 am
Johnny Appleseed! 😀 😀 😀
huiatahi#1742920jensMemberMember since: May 3, 2006
Replies: 7746jens February 17, 2020 at 8:50 am
Supergold – as long as there are complaints about poverty and low incomes, then discussing this on a public forum should not be diverted to a thread very few bother to read and respond.
Could not this apparent unwillingness for public discussion and clarification on economics itself perhaps be a contributing cause of poverty (amidst plenty) ?
totara, huiatahi – the apple trees in Paradise were created by the Lord.
But when we humans want to plant them, we have to work at it without any immediate reward at all!!!
You get the message ?#1742925BryanMemberMember since: October 28, 2006
Replies: 12533Bryan February 17, 2020 at 11:03 am
Supergold, Don’t you have any brick walls around your way?
You should know once Jens gets the bit between his teeth there’s no stopping him!!
At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki#1742926gabyoneMemberMember since: November 13, 2008
Replies: 2833gabyone February 17, 2020 at 11:56 am
This is the worst thing about G/ups now days. A few people are determined to change every thread to force others to engage in conversation with them. SG is right here this thread is not the place to discuss a theory that G/up members have refused to engage with during my entire membership period. Sadly many great contributors have simply voted with their feet.
Gabyone Auckland region#1742929halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 5035halcyon February 17, 2020 at 12:08 pm
Unfortunately Jens’ behaviour is like that of a religious fanatic. They believe their way is the only way to “save the world”.When the weaknesses in their perspective are pointed out, they just repeat the same old mantra. He reminds me of those religious fanatics who used to come door knocking.
It is useless trying to discuss his pet theory with him. He will not accept any argument that is contrary to his belief.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” (George Orwell, The Animal Farm)#1742932totaraMemberMember since: November 29, 2007
Replies: 575totara February 17, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Where is the proof that paradise or the Lord exist?#1742936supergoldMemberMember since: May 9, 2009
Replies: 9176supergold February 17, 2020 at 12:56 pm
Supergold – as long as there are complaints about poverty and low incomes, then discussing this on a public forum should not be diverted to a thread Supergold – as long as there are complaints about poverty and low incomes, then discussing this on a public forum should not be diverted to a thread very few bother to read and respond..
Jens, you have stated that very clearly, you deliberately choose to post your theory on a more popular thread because a thread dedicated to your subject causes “very few bother to read and respond.”
What are you missing? People are sick to death of your constant posts about the same subject. I have asked you nicely to post in a thread you have created for the purpose of your subject but now I am telling you to go away and stop being a nuisance. The more division you create, the less backing you will receive from those you are trying to reach!
Using your own words … “You get the message ? “
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1742937arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10864arandar February 17, 2020 at 2:07 pm
Actually many of us, back in the ‘good ol’ days’ did engage in discussion with Jens but, having thoroughly explored his theory,and having as I did researched the background of it, and finding no amount of discussion moved Jens from his belief in it, one by one, we all declined to engage further.
Jens and I fell out when he persisted in attributing clearly wrong statements to me in an effort to get me to come back in and defend myself. I told him then I would never engage with him again.
Jens’ belief in his theory goes back decades to when ACT was founded, Jens was a founding member but failed to get ACT to support this theory.
Every finance minister since Douglas has refused to support it. More recently, he’s tried to get Grey Power to support and lobby each consecutive govt but even there, the support and interest is minimal.
That’s why we set up a couple of threads specifically for him.
Sadly, for him and us, no one is interested enough to do so, not even the people who so vociferously defended Jens’ right to post what he wanted where he wanted… free speech, don’t you know …as long as he was annoying the lefties, that is.
Well, here’s the result. GrownUps forums are dying on their feet. Go figure.
Me, I’m going where there’s more being discussed and more posters presenting a wider range of subjects and opinions.
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