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  • #1673107
    Profile photo of halcyonhalcyon
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    halcyon

    There is much happening around the world at present but unfortunately our media are failing to keep us informed. Therefore I have opened this thread and invite your  comments on the various articles. The thread is on the Politics Today forum thereby allowing energetic debate.

    I behave therefore I am.
    (Apologies to B F Skinner and Rene Descartes)

    #1673108
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    halcyon

    Who would live in South Africa?

    After years of government-linked slaughter, torture, abuse, and hatred against embattled European-descent farmers in South Africa, the radical government might have finally gone too far by openly vowing to steal their land without compensation. Now, it seems, the world is taking notice. Whether it is too little, too late remains to be seen.
    Australian authorities, for one, are speaking out, while also seeking ways to bring in the persecuted farmers before the situation deteriorates further”

    The New American  Monday, 19 March 2018

     

    AfriForum’s head of security has claimed that 109 farm attacks have already taken place in 2018, 100 days into the calendar year.
    Ian Cameron was speaking on the same day AfriForum launched their international campaign to present their views on land expropriation to the rest of the world.”

    https://www.thesouthafrican.com/afriforum-farm-attacks-alleged-numbers/ 19 March 2018

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    lilith7

    You do though,have to wonder how much ‘ government-linked slaughter, torture, abuse, and hatred’ against African people went on before & under apartheid – which wasn’t acknowledged to much extent by the S.A. media in those times.

     

    Which doesn’t in any way excuse the appalling things happening now. I think Australia is for once heading in the right direction by trying to help,though if NZ decided to take people from South Africa I hope we screen them  for racist tendencies first.

    #1673228
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    halcyon

    I agree lilith7, history shows us that the Whites treated the Blacks terribly, mainly because they considered the Blacks as animals and not as humans. However, as you said, that does not justify the current behaviour. The South African Government are rather annoyed that Australia has become involved as it has turned the international spotlight on what is happening.

    It will be interesting to see how things develop. There are those who predict that there will be civil war there before long.

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    #1673294
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    gord018

    Blacks also treat Blacks terribly.
    It was Black tribes who enslaved other tribes and herded them to the Ivory coast and other slave markets to be sold to whites or Arabs.
    We should take in as Many white farmers as possible and not identify our country as being a nation of reverse Racism as thing are bad enough in that respect right now.
    Take for example that Baby in hospital with many fractured bones and the Whanau refusing to cooperate with police. Bet if these child molesters were Middle class white males or Asian the media would be knocking on the criminals doors looking for answers.

    #1673746
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    halcyon

    According to the National Public Radio (US) dated 18 March 2018

    Yemen has been in a war that is being fought, in large part, by regional rivals Saudi Arabia and Iran. Steve Inskeep travels to the frontlines to meet with fighters and displaced civilians.

    Hi, Steve.
    STEVE INSKEEP, BYLINE: Hi there, David.

    GREENE: So the U.N. calls this the worst humanitarian crisis in the world, which, I mean, says a lot, given the world we live in today. Why is Yemen mostly not in the headlines?

    INSKEEP: Partly that it’s so remote, on the end of the Arabian Peninsula – desert on one side, water on the other. It’s really dangerous to visit, and the combatants limit access to journalists. Now, there is powerful reporting out of Yemen. Don’t get me wrong. But it gets lost in other news. And it’s worth a deeper look because of what the U.N. says. Most of the country – maybe 17 million people, David – face food shortages or disease or economic devastation as well as war.

    GREENE: I mean, that’s just a – that’s an extraordinary statistics and numbers. OK, so you have Saudi Arabia. They have this coalition supporting them on one side of a civil war. And the U.S. is one of the Saudi allies, right?

    INSKEEP: That’s right. The U.S. provides intelligence, and refuels Saudi warplanes in the air and also sells the Saudis billions of dollars’ worth of military hardware. Human rights groups and some in Congress now want to end that U.S. involvement. And it’s under that pressure that the Saudis have offered a bit of openness. They’re now flying reporters into Yemen to see a small part of the war, so we took up that invitation.

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    mommabear70

    Interesting – when petrol prices are around $2.50 a litre, how much money does the Government get from you to fill up a 50 litre car?

    National Land Transport Fund $31.51
    GST $16.31 (on a $2.50 retail price)
    Regional Fuel Tax (in Auckland) $5.00
    ACC Levy $3.00
    Local Authorities Fuel Tax $0.33
    Engine Fuel Monitoring Levy $0.15
    But that isn’t all. To pay for the $125 petrol bill, you need to (if top tax rate) earn $186.57 which means there was also income tax of $61.57.
    Plus ACC earner levy $2.59 on the $186.57

    So every time you spend $125 filling up the car with petrol, the Government will have got over $120 as you will have had to have earned almost $190 to pay for it!

    And Ardern has the nerve to say NZ’s motorists are being “Fleeced” by big bad oil companies?

    #1704866
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    Hero42

    So many complaints but have you forgotten that a review was carried out recently that showed the tax deducted by National was about the same as Labour.

    Why no complaints about the amount National charged you in tax?

    And that was what the media was telling us.

    Incidentally what large car are you driving that takes $125 to fill the tank?

    Cheers 🙂

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    Hero42

    I originally posted this on politics today thread but it is worth repeating here in response to the above post.

    The Government has decided to reduce the Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) Work Levy and keep all other ACC levies at their current rate, Jacinda Ardern confirmed.

    The ACC proposed in September higher levies for motorists in New Zealand, which could see petrol prices increase by almost 2 cents a litre. It included an increase of 1.9 cents per litre for petrol, part of an overall 12 percent increase in the average motor vehicle levy (including petrol and registration).

    When the rises in ACC levies were first discussed, the Government “took a clear position that a compelling case would need to be presented in order for us to agree to levy increases,” the Prime Minister said on Monday.

    “We have done just that, and concluded that the levies would not increase, and actually decrease for work levies paid by employers and self-employed people.

    “This will save New Zealand businesses and their customers around $100 million over the next two years compared to current rates.”

    Good to know and perhaps but I doubt the right will will stop saying Labour is about raising taxes and fiscal irresponsibility.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1704873
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    halcyon

    Hero, I applaud the Government taking the step of reducing ACC levies.  However, the question is “will this reduction in income be off-set by a reduction in services?” I hope not.

    You also mention that we should not perceive Labour as a party that is about raising taxes. I will wait until the report from the tax working group has been released. If going in to the next election  you can demonstrate how a middle income family are no worse off than they are at present, then your claim will be justified. But I am not holding my breath.

    Cheers   🙂

    I behave therefore I am.
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