- #1730139halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 5023halcyon August 20, 2019 at 5:51 pm
With the move away from carbon based fuels, I see a Kiwi is leading the charge to develop an electric powered rally car.
Hayden Paddon has unveiled plans for world’s first EV rally car. He hopes to have the prototype up and running in eight months with Hyundai Kona EV eventually capable of competing in full length rallys. Paddon says he’s been working on the idea since early last year
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” (George Orwell, The Animal Farm)#1730154paulinemMemberMember since: July 8, 2006
Replies: 1136paulinem August 20, 2019 at 7:48 pm
The TV advertisement of the two old guys playing hookie in an electric car makes these type of transport , look very interesting. My brother in law a retired traffic officer was keen to buy an electric car one as they impressed him as been a good overall vehicle to get around in for his everyday needs. But he didnt buy one Why ? Cost at the time he was looking at buying a new vehicles. The electric cars were horrendous in cost to buy as I understand well over sixty thousand dollars to buy. Thus he settled for buying another petrol driven car, that was seen as an economic petrol car. He was quite dissapointed in being forced to buy another petrol car, as he had his mind set on buying a electric car to use until he no longer could drive anymore.#1730184antony139514MemberMember since: March 24, 2018
Replies: 4antony139514 August 21, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I had the same experience recently but decided to buy a recent (8 years old ) hybrid which has many of the advantages of an electric car but at half the price second-hand.
antony139514#1730533Hero42 August 23, 2019 at 2:06 pm
They are expensive to buy but cheaper to run so the payback period where the total cost of the car switches to favour electric cars is about three years based on average mileage.
As for CO2 production the same applies as more CO2 is created building the electric cars compared to equivalent petrol cars but here the point where overall CO2 production favours electric vehicles is about 2 years based on average mileage.
Clearly for commercial drivers and taxi drivers it will be less than a year because of the the higher mileage they do.
The option to buy then comes down to what we can afford but the prices are falling all the time and there are current and future incentives to help with the cost.
Cheers 🙂#1730545halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 5023halcyon August 23, 2019 at 3:09 pm
And electric cars could be come much cheaper still if the research into hydrogen powered vehicles proves correct. Hydrogen vehicles have the advantage that their fuel can be stored and carried. The reliance on a single form of motion is fraught with problems if that fuel source breaks down
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” (George Orwell, The Animal Farm)#1730553Hero42 August 23, 2019 at 4:09 pm
True but the biggest problem for Hydrogen powered cars at the moment is getting the infrastructure in place to refuel them.
A lot has been spent on electric recharge stations already so who will want to put up the cash to install all the hydrogen refueling stations.
Cheers 🙂#1730555Hero42 August 23, 2019 at 4:12 pm
Another part of the equation is will the promise of cheap quick to recharge electric batteries based on aluminum come to fruition?
Early research suggested a full charge would take the same amount of time as it would to refill a tank with petrol and if that is the case then the last big worry for potential buyers would be removed.
Cheers 🙂#1730874phun83179MemberMember since: November 19, 2013
Replies: 34phun83179 August 28, 2019 at 1:14 pm
I recently hired a Prius Hybrid. I was very impressed with it. It had a 1.8 litre (standard
Toyota) engine. There are Corollas with the same engine and you can get a 2.0 litre version.
I got 47+ MPG (my 1999 Nissan Maxima 3.0 litre will do 34MPG on a trip). It takes a bit of getting used to driving, as when going (say) up a hill both motors are working, and it will climb the hill better than the V6. It is quite hard to keep it on 100km/h on the open road!
I saw a secondhand Prius for sale (2012) for $20,000.00, but the batteries only last 10 years and they are about $8,000.00 to replace, so not a good deal. Also I could not actually afford to replace my present vehicle which still costs me the same in fuel cost as when I bought it 14 years ago.
The feebate scheme would not help me to buy a new electric car either. I suspect there are many like me who are in the same boat!
phun83179#1731119TedEMemberMember since: May 6, 2006
Replies: 2284TedE August 30, 2019 at 8:01 pm
In 2010 my wife had cancer surgery followed by radiation and Chemo.
At that stage I bought a 2003 Signature Prius (58000km0, it was roomy and comfortable and very economic in the stop go traffic to the Auckland on trips for treatment (in this period it was giving 4l/100km).
We have now done another 100,00k and it is still performing aas well as it did when we bought it. I have gradually changed my driving habits and that may account for the slightly improved performance.
We record all our expenses and it has been very economic.
Over the last 84,000km we’ve got 22.94l/km or 4.36km/l or 63.62mpg
At this stage we have not noticed any loss of battery performance and my experience has been good.
TedE - Papakura -
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