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    kai

    Sorry all on Gups been away from here for ages . Please forgive the out of date comments!!!

    Someone mentioned to us the other day (out at Sea )that there was an idea ,,think it was somewhere in Australia,,,  (but  stand corrected) that they want to bring in no gender on a birth certificate.in a certain state !!

    It May have been discussed on here already,, and if so apologies,, as haven’t caught up,, Still behind the 8 ball

     

    Just want to say that we can now determine gender of our Moko and also our own children on a scan before they are born.

    Why would a Child(whose brain is still developing ) have the choice if they wanted to be a boy or a girl .???.When we were 10, wanted to be a nurse ,,,,at 15 wanted to be a model?? EG

    We were created,,, that we were male and female (in our own here,,observance of life from a Medical point of view,,, Through 1st hand experience,and study,

    and a lifetime of real life experiences,, and come what may. That'”s where we start and end ..

     

    This of course is a personal opinion and others may disagree ..

     

     

     

     

    Cheers From Kai

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    kai

    Sorry wasn’t sure what area to put this in so put it in Current affairs !!!

    Cheers From Kai

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    betty126001

    There are some people however who are born as hermaphrodites. There have been instances in recent history where these people have been listed as one gender at birth, and on occasions as a child when they have been too young to give consent have been operated on with parental consent to make them one sex, but who later identify as the other gender. So it is not as clear as some people think.

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    kai

    I agree Betty,there are some like that it’s true.

    I was more referring to the fact of on the Birth certificate ,not having male or female as a requirement. The idea they wanted ,was letting the child decide for itself.

    I don’t know if it will be bought in or not..

     

    Hope I didn’t mislead you in what I was trying to say.

    Cheers From Kai

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    vale019

    Hi Kai, great to see you back, our wee busy buzzy bee.

    Hi Betty, nice to meet you 😀
    re some people who are born as hermaphrodites… I would think those cases would be relatively rare and special provision (e.g. a deferred decision in regard to gender) could possibly be made for them but for all other births I can see no good reason why the gender shouldn’t be shown on the child’s birth records.

    #1704501
    Profile photo of sir-nigel-gresleysir-nigel-gresley
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    sir-nigel-gresley

    Male and female each have different reproductive bits, and that should determine what the child is surely.   🙄

    Happy Valley

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    betty126001

    All good Kai and Vale 019 ☺ It is an interesting subject and in the past bas been so sad for some rare cases where the child was operated on but later identified with the opposite gender.

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    halcyon

    Unfortunately not these days Sir-n-g. It is surprising what surgery can do.

    However, this current trend is questionable. I am thinking of the guy Jenner. He completed in the Olympics as a man. He then self identifies as a woman yet he is in a relationship with a woman. Sounds queer to me.

    I behave therefore I am.
    (Apologies to B F Skinner and Rene Descartes)

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    lilith7

    I’m not sure its a trend;more a willingness to understand that as Betty said, some babies can’t readily be classified as either male or female & probably this move would be in recognition of that.

    #1704555
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    vale019

    Male and female each have different reproductive bits, and that should determine what the child is surely.

    Sir Nigel – sometimes it is not always as straightforward as that – as Betty says, by a freak of nature some babies are born as hermaphrodites.  How is that child’s gender shown on their birth certificate?

     

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