- #1725693paulinem July 22, 2019 at 10:58 am
Mommabear Williams was talking about yes a disgusting deportation by NZ of Pacific Islanders in the 1970s, or was it late 1960s when from memory National was in power.#1725785paulinem July 22, 2019 at 5:21 pm
Also Mommabear, National also complained loudly to Australia, when in power re sending there crimes back to NZ when they have had nothing to do with this country since early childhood. These crime deportees mostly have no family here no job, no support services no money, which meant they used the only tool they knew to survive in NZ ie crime to support themselves.
Naturally the crime they did was done at NZs disadvantage.
Why do you not also mention that Key/ English also approached the Australian Govt to stop sending them back etc to NZ ?#1725801gabyoneMemberMember since: November 13, 2008
Replies: 2740gabyone July 22, 2019 at 7:07 pm
The determination to condemn every thing about current government seems to lead to foot in mouth with some posters.
Gabyone Auckland region#1725814mommabear70 July 22, 2019 at 8:01 pm
Haha good one gabyone. But you have no problem with some posters determined to condemn every thing about the previous government that causes foot in mouth.#1725820gabyoneMemberMember since: November 13, 2008
Replies: 2740gabyone July 22, 2019 at 8:25 pm
I have never supported mindless whinging by either side. There were things wrong with National just as there are with Labour. Get over it & enjoy the positives instead off all the constant whinging.
Gabyone Auckland region#1725827mommabear70 July 22, 2019 at 8:48 pm
Paulinem, Peter Williams on Magic Radio reported on deportations to Pacific Islands in 2018.
Also, Immigration New Zealand (INZ) figures show in the past five years 1040 people have been deported to the Pacific from New Zealand.#1725830paulinem July 22, 2019 at 9:59 pm
Mommabear that makes an average of 200 a year back to their pacific home. No idea why but suspect it was crime related and also every case would be individually different. Before making a judgement or suggestion of wrong doing I believe we/I need to know a lot more, about each deportees circumstances as individuals. Easy to sit on fences and pass judgements when you are not personally involved with a problem. I also strongly doubt the pacific deportees, would be put in the desperate circumstances as what Australia is doing with the NZ deportees when they send them back here.
Personally this is the first I have heard of 200 a year pacific deportees, but I doubt very much their problems would be as bad as those sent back by National in the 70s. It was a long time ago when this happened but I do have memories of quite a lot of public anger at the deportation back to the pacific in the 70s and the TV stories of the problems that occurred for them . Where as these Williams deportees this is the first I have heard of it occurring, Yet according to you it has been occurring now for five years. Obviously the question arises if these 200 a year is such a barbaric deportation how come our media havnt told us about it? How come Australia hasnt publicly called us hypocrites re complaining about their deportations?#1725832mommabear70 July 22, 2019 at 10:41 pm
Paulinem, perhaps you should keep an eye on other than your mainstream news.
”Like Australia and the United States, New Zealand deports people who have been convicted of crimes.”
”..how come our media havnt told us about it?”
By ‘our media’ you’d be referring to the ones that simply adore the current coalition and wouldn’t dare publish stories that put them in bad light? Even when the PM left them stranded after the Airforce taxi broke down – true loyalty that.
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Mommabear according to your information deportations have been occurring for FIVE years. When your friends were in power ! When your friends Mr John Key and Mr Bill English were also giving the Aussies a hard time re deportations of Kiwis.
Again if this report you have given is true, then how come the media under your friends political time didn’t report the hypocrisy via the media !! Jacinta was not around in this earlier time Mommabear !!
Again IF the report is true ??#1725844mommabear70 July 23, 2019 at 10:57 am
Paulinem, I find it interesting you can’t see the hypocrisy from Ardern.
From your other comments it’s clear you’d prefer people coming to NZ on limited time work visas to stay as long as they like and never be deported for overstaying.
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