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    Profile photo of paulinempaulinem
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    paulinem

    Good news it appear Chris  Hipkins has possibly negotiated a potential satisfactory  end to the primary school teachers industrial action. All very hush hush. yet what the newspaper suggests the meeting last week has possibly reached an agreement. It says that Hipkins is hopeful a deal has been reached. I guess until the teachers meet as individual groups and centres etc and discuss what has been offered by Hipkins for them their will be no public notice, of an  accepted agreement for the teachers.

    #1722354
    Profile photo of halcyonhalcyon
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    halcyon

    That is good news. Considering that Chris Hipkins has made strong statements that there is no more money available for education it will be interesting what he has offered.

    Maybe he has told teachers to focus on their teaching role and leave pastoral care to other agencies. Maybe he has negotiated with Mental Health to increase their involvement in issues that fall into their domain. And teachers could make referrals to Oranga Tamariki  to deal with both behavioural issues and children coming to school without breakfast and lunch. OT could assist parents with gaining assistance through WINZ  for support. And behavioural issues fall under the heading of Care and Protection.  Again support for parents in that area would save those children ending up in the Youth Justice system.

    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

    #1722368
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    Hero42

    The issue revolves not around money but around workload.

    The previous government promised to do something about that but didn’t include it in the pay agreement and then didn’t deliver.

    Now as a result of that the unions want it included in the pay agreement.

    But it is hard putting something in to a pay agreement that isn’t easily delivered such as additional teachers when that has so many factors that are outside the government’s control.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1722369
    Profile photo of Hero42Hero42
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    Hero42

    Mommabear
    It occurs to me that we may be talking about different numbers when it comes to housing.

    If you are only thinking about Kiwibuild then I can understand why you don’t understand how the government is building more houses than the previous government. I can understand why you might do that as the Opposition and the media only talk about Kiwibuild.

    You have to include State Housing which the current government are currently building nine times more properties per annum than the previous government.

    Housing NZ is now building 2,700 new homes, with 900 homes in the regions. The target is a net increase of 1,100 much-needed new state homes each year until 2022. So they are ahead of schedule on that target already. Maybe they are planning to scale that back as more builders take up Kiwibuild contracts.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1722396
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    doogie

    A bad day in the house today for government.

    Acting prime minister booted out

    A stuttering performance by Mr Bluff and Bluster Phil Twyford and a cover up of time lines of the non hacking announcement by them along with what could be perceived as ducking for cover by the PM.

    #1722435
    Profile photo of mommabear70mommabear70
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    mommabear70

    Oh the rubbish one reads on here it’s no wonder people no longer participate.

    Ardern’s Kiwibuild promise of 100,000 new affordable homes was in addition to what the private sector and HNZ are producing. In effect, Kiwibuild hasn’t produced a single affordable new home. But anyone who bothers to check out the facts knows that already.

    So this copy n paste from the govt propaganda website. What a laugh. “Housing NZ is now building 2,700 new homes“. Well that’s not what the HNZ website says. I looked up just two of their listed developments that were supposed to be underway as at this point in time. Both were supposed to have tenants in them by the end of June 2019 but construction hasn’t even started.

     

    #1722445
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    Hero42

    Mommabear
    You miss the point.

    The statement that the government are building more houses then the previous government is true because it includes all the forms of building the government is undertaking not just Kiwibuild.

    Kiwibuild is slower to take off than expected but the HNZ is going faster than expected so more houses are being built than the previous government did.

    Later when HNZ is approaching the end of its building programme and the work starts to decrease some of the builders may then get into Kiwibuild as the work from HNZ dries up which will speed up Kiwibuild.

    The developments are underway and listed on HNZ as you tell us but I can’t find the ones referred to. But then again I didn’t go through all of the them to find the ones you refer to. Perhaps you could enlighten us.

    If out of the thousands they are working on only two are behind schedule that is indeed a very good performance record.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1722446
    Profile photo of Hero42Hero42
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    Hero42

    Good news on the teachers pay negotiations.

    Seems the government have decided to address the pay parity issue now rather than later as planned.

    Good to see the government responding to the will of the people again.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1722449
    Profile photo of Hero42Hero42
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    Hero42

    As for the budget paper theft by the National Party Labour MP Kris Faafoi has a succinct explanation for why headlines about the Budget breach didn’t hurt the Government at the polls.

    “No one really cares.”

    That and the fact the majority of Kiwis think National were wrong to do it according to the NewsHub poll.

    And if you want to know why I called it theft read this article by AUT law professor Kris Gledhill

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/06/why-the-treasury-non-hack-may-still-have-been-illegal.html

    Cheers 🙂

    #1722459
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    henri

    Mommabear70

    You sound like a bad loser in the debate.

    I checked the kiwibuild website and there are a lot more properties being developed than you say so maybe you are out of date on those figures to.

    But either way the recent poll allowed voters still support the government over kiwibuild so they seem happy with progress.

    😎

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