- #1683648paulinemMemberMember since: July 8, 2006
Replies: 982paulinem June 13, 2018 at 7:20 am
Well said Arandar and Gabyone I agree with all you said …I too am a floating voter whom makes my mind up whom I will vote for shortly before voting ( and I always vote as I believe it shows respect and appreciation to my fore bearers in giving me a democratic country to live in And which I can make a secret vote for whom I want in power etc ) and I vote always after I have considered all issues in regards my own personal values.
I find it interesting Jennifer’s impute though in our NZ political discussions as I understand she is an American …you would think she has enough in her own country of political goings on to comment opinions on etc with out commenting opinions on NZ political affairs.#1683650arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10749arandar June 13, 2018 at 8:51 am
Pauline, I’d like to think we all voted with due consideration of the problems, policies, people and past history in mind but I think the voting population in NZ is roughly divided in thirds and only rarely step away from that.
Roughly, about a third always votes National, about a third Labour, and about a third swings between the two and their minor support parties or don’t vote at all.
As to Jennifer, I understand she’s a NZer who’s lived in the US for many years.
I think she has a right to comment here on NZ politics – as does any GUPpy from anywhere – as we here in NZ have opinions about, say, US politics.
i think it’s probably quite useful to read the observations of outsiders and those far removed from the local realities.
Arandar#1683652freemind June 13, 2018 at 9:01 am
For once arander , I agree with you . Jennifer has every right to comment,. Just as i or any other Kiwi has the right to comment on Issues within other countries.#1683654freemind June 13, 2018 at 9:08 am
Have you lot not noticed just how silent the PC liberals anti trump brigade have gone.#1683664arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10749arandar June 13, 2018 at 9:55 am
Like most sensible people, I only speak when I have something to say.
Right now, I’m hoping Trump has achieved something useful for peace in the world.
Today, as we see what (little) has been agreed and the serious concerns, expressed in the usual diplomatic terms, of South Korea and Japan, that ongoing negotiations will eventually result in North Korea completely de-nuking.
I don’t believe it will because I don’t believe there’s enough in it for Korea.
I hope I’m wrong but time will tell.
Let’s face it, with scandals following Trump like a cloud of Aussie flies, and the mess he’s made of US relations with their two nearest neighbours, the Kim/Trump meeting has provided a welcome distraction and photo op.
Arandar#1683673freemind June 13, 2018 at 11:22 am
No different from the scandals of Clinton and Obama.
Both who achieved nothing on the world stage besides lots of PC statements and Photo opps
We now have a leader who speaks his mind .
Wish we had someone like that in NZ#1683675lilith7MemberMember since: April 9, 2017
Replies: 2029lilith7 June 13, 2018 at 11:26 am
It would be wonderful if somehow Trump managed to bring about peace with NK. Very surprising,but wonderful.
With regard to the claims that Nicky Hager broke the law,he addressed it (question 5 )& other questions in this article. And to date,no one has taken legal action against him,though I believe the repulsive W.O. & some of his associates are still involved in a court case.
Nicky Hager, answers to questions
Question 5, aren’t you encouraging breaking the law, burglary etc?
“Daniel, if you read the book,you’ll see that I try very hard to be ethical in what I write. Leaking can only be justified when there are serious political issues at stake that are being hidden from the public. This was certainly a case of that”.#1683690don021MemberMember since: May 15, 2012
Replies: 1774don021 June 13, 2018 at 12:52 pm
The much publicised meeting between Trump & Kim is only a preliminary skirmish, the sparks will really fly if a peace treaty is signed and Korea is united; who will rule it? I believe Kim is hoping for a united country that HE WILL RULE. He is not going to leave the stage willingly.#1683693Hero42MemberMember since: July 18, 2008
Replies: 11995Hero42 June 13, 2018 at 1:03 pm
North and South Korea will not be united for a very long time, if ever. They will exist as separate countries.
Cheers 🙂#1683794TedEMemberMember since: May 6, 2006
Replies: 2259TedE June 13, 2018 at 8:37 pm
I thought that we became involved as part of a UN force in the Korean War?
Since the Cease Fire there have been constant meetings at the demilitarized zone between the parties. Without recent knowledge of the negotiations I have the impression that the US has been a major factor in the lack of progress as the UN negotiators were pretty hard put to broker the intransigence of both parties.
I think that the South Korean Prime Minister, Moon, has been a major factor in getting to this point and he is quite happy to play the long game as I see it. He ahs been quite self effacing and letting the braggarts hold the limelight but he appears to be playing the best poker hand in all this.
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