- #1636315drlivingstoneMemberMember since: October 22, 2006
Replies: 34938drlivingstone August 12, 2017 at 10:54 pm
We will be watching Q&A tomorrow as a new poll puts Peter Dunne behind Labours Greg O,Connor in The Ohariu seat. Jacinda has certainly put a rocket into this election but can,t afford complacency.Cheers 😀
Peoples Republic Of Christchurch#1636348don021MemberMember since: May 15, 2012
Replies: 1533don021 August 13, 2017 at 12:30 pm
Child crime has been allowed to escalate for too long but now light is on the horizon. National are planning to send convicted hoodlums to a training camp for a year and FINE PARENTS, the real culprits, who have children roaming the streets alone in the early mornings. At last, force is being applied where it will do some good.#1636358arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10365arandar August 13, 2017 at 1:14 pm
Fining ‘bad’ parents? What if they’re poor? Lowincome? Low wage earners?
How does fining them do anything to help them parent better?
I might favour massive fines for middle class parents and boot camp for their spoilt self entitled offspring since they all know better and have the resources to do better.
But if children are roaming the streets in the early hours how do you know that their parents aren’t some of those forced to work all hours of the day and night cleaning, nurse aiding, care giving, for a pittance just to support their families.
If I recall you are one of those who claim businesses may not be able to pay a living wage? And shouldn’t be required to? And at the same time, benefits should be less again so as to encourage people to work, even for inadequate recompense, right?
Well, absent parents and wayward youth are some of the many consequences of that policy.
There are far better ways to deal with this and a living wage and affordable housing lies right at the heart.
Some people just love to punish!
🌊Arandar🏄🏽♀️#1636373wandakrMemberMember since: May 26, 2011
Replies: 2767wandakr August 13, 2017 at 3:14 pm
Been away from GUPS for a while but I see we have a political thread again.
Correct me if I’m wrong – has my Maori & Politics thread been stopped?….given that Maori in Politics is very current affairs – ….why?
wandakr#1636374doogieMemberMember since: March 27, 2006
Replies: 6086doogie August 13, 2017 at 3:28 pm
What are you smoking?
Show me where I have mentioned fining penalties that you are admonishing me for.
Remember me reminding you about jumping over Taranaki gates#1636411arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10365arandar August 13, 2017 at 8:47 pm
I beg your pardon Doogie and yours Don. I got your names confused.
I stand by my post however.
🌊Arandar🏄🏽♀️#1636415sir-nigel-gresleyMemberMember since: January 10, 2017
Replies: 854sir-nigel-gresley August 13, 2017 at 9:59 pm
Hi Wandakr, when politics were taken off, all of the previous ones seemed to have disappeared. Admin created this Politics Today. 🙂
Happy Valley#1636416sir-nigel-gresleyMemberMember since: January 10, 2017
Replies: 854sir-nigel-gresley August 13, 2017 at 10:36 pm
Actually the thread maybe down in the dungeon somewhere, I will see if I can find it. 🙂
Happy Valley#1636417doogieMemberMember since: March 27, 2006
Replies: 6086doogie August 14, 2017 at 5:21 am
Accepted arandar#1636467lilith7MemberMember since: April 9, 2017
Replies: 1417lilith7 August 14, 2017 at 11:09 am
‘Boot camps & fining parents’ definitely helps govt appear tough,at least to those who might be unaware of the disastrous record boot camps have here as well as overseas.
Its a tough sounding ‘solution’ which won’t solve the problem & may well cause far more damage as it has in the recent past. And it isn’t about fixing the problem;its about making govt look good to those who believe strength equals harsh punishment & particularly recent immigrants from places like China & India where harsh punishments hold sway because the long term effects are either not understood or not considered.
Govt must be well aware that it won’t work,must know of the results of disastrous attempts at boot camps here & so this looks very like a cynical attempt at getting votes with no regard whatever for those involved.
And while fining parents sounds like govt is getting tough on those wicked parents,the reality is likely to be different. And I can’t see how any govt could possibly be unaware of that,which is really sad,that any govt could use its people in this way.
But then its election year – anything to get votes & to hell with the damage done eh.
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