- #1741057gabyone January 20, 2020 at 4:28 pm
The problem, in my opinion, about why no one posts here is the few who do lectures instead of concise comments.
Rob :What Huiatahi posted had a source reference at beginning, rather than much of cut & paste stuff on here, which boils down to be cherry picked quotes, from others personal opinions, on whatever is being discussed. I have seen other sites which do not tolerate long posts reiterating what the poster has previously said.
We all have differing opinions but it is very frustrating when people post screeds & try and force others to agree or stop posting.
Gabyone Auckland region#1741060rob023MemberMember since: October 7, 2011
Replies: 1621rob023 January 20, 2020 at 6:10 pm
Gabyone, in posting my opinions it’s never my intention to ‘force’ anyone to agree or even read for that matter.
All I’m doing is saying it like it is for me.
But when I first noticed your mention of ‘force’ it reminded me of things I’ve read before.
Today’s Herald has an article about grandparents who have been “forced” to raise their grandchildren.
It seems the grandparents felt the children would be better raised by people other than their addicted parents. Maybe they felt that if they wanted the children to have the best possible start in life their only choice was to take them in, and good on them, this is a commendable decision. But they weren’t “forced” to do it.
A couple of weeks ago the Herald reported than an actor who played one of the Weasley brothers in Harry Potter was “forced” to work in a pub as their was no acting work. No, he wasn’t forced, he chose to. And good on him for taking work that he so clearly believed was beneath him.
Hastings council has been “forced” to close a new playground due to damage.
No, they chose to close it and presumably it was the right decision, but I’m sure they weren’t “forced” to. A gun to their heads?
Another article: The headline “Black Caps forced into five changes.”
Really? Forced? I had no intention of reading the article but I don’t think it’s likely they were “forced” to make changes. They have an army of players to choose from.
Another headline “NSW farmer forced to shoot cattle after fire.”
I’m sure that was absolutely the right decision to make, but was he forced? Don’t think so. Better headline would be “NSW farmer shoots stricken cattle after fire”
But The Herald isn’t alone in this, I see these types of headlines in many different papers. Probably all hoping they’ll sell more papers/subscriptions.#1741061huiatahiMemberMember since: March 22, 2017
Replies: 1112huiatahi January 20, 2020 at 6:21 pm
Perhaps a better term to use would be “ no other option. I know with the majority of grand parents raising grandchildren the other option is usually put them into state care..what would your option be?
in the case of the shot livestock it would be animals in severe pain with no hope of recovery…what would your option be?
With the black caps…if 5 of their key players were injured what other option did they have than replace them.
I think you’re nitpicking rob
huiatahi#1741062rob023MemberMember since: October 7, 2011
Replies: 1621rob023 January 20, 2020 at 6:44 pm
I think it’s better not to go down the ‘who’s nitpicking’ road.
Could get messy eh?#1741064gabyone January 20, 2020 at 7:04 pm
Oh dear !!!!!
Gabyone Auckland region#1741072paulinemMemberMember since: July 8, 2006
Replies: 1144paulinem January 21, 2020 at 8:36 am
Huiatahi thank you for the info re child allowance available to mothers when they need to take time of work to have a child.
I believe while it is good that in doing so our NZ parents of children are not severely financially disadvantage in giving birth to a child. But to be truthful I also feel concerned as the allowance etc makes it easier for parents to put their child in say day care and return to the workforce, when often the child is barely six months old. To me their is a danger if this continues to school age, then to the child the parents become instead of being my mum and dad but this is my mother and father ( ie a more formal identity to the child) In other words the child grows into adulthood its life seeing their parents as being just another adults whom were guardians of themselves.
Ideally to me parents should be emotionally as a child’s best friend someone they can identify as my mum and dad . That parents be adults whom the child trust explicitly to care for their best interest as they love them. If the child as a preschooler spends most of their prime awake time in public day care or equivalent institution then I suspect their is a serious danger of the special relationship a child has with its parents is lost to one of just another adult in their lives.
I do also realize huiatahi that money to live etc forces parents out in the workforce, this is the reason I have taken an interest in the past in politics as I believe the answer to NZ problems is we need political economic reform in other words our country return to a similar economic policy we enjoyed as children.
But to return to the topic above I am also aware of the very true saying ” Give me a boy until 7ys and I will give you the man he will become” In other words the first seven years relationships a child has of his/her life will in many ways determine what kind of adult they become and as well the values as an adult they will adopt.#1741074huiatahiMemberMember since: March 22, 2017
Replies: 1112huiatahi January 21, 2020 at 10:11 am
To put it in plain English Paulinem when our office manager took maternity leave last year she started her leave a fortnight before baby was due, After baby was a month old she was allowed to come back for a few hours a week as long it was under forty hours total for all of her leave to keep her in contact with the office. Her total leave at that stage was 16 weeks
huiatahi#1741075don021MemberMember since: May 15, 2012
Replies: 1857don021 January 21, 2020 at 12:00 pm
gabyone, I’m with you on the long posts, if people want to write a short story they should try the Readers Digest. And while on the subject of long news, I consider myself a Royalist but am fed up with the Harry & his wife’s news, let therm settle in peace in Canada and the rest of the Royals get on with their lives.#1741088gabyone January 21, 2020 at 1:50 pm
Don021 : I am also fed up with hearing about it. They call themselves “The firm” so Harry is entitled to leave their employ. The news media obviously are short of news.
Gabyone Auckland region#1741094paulinemMemberMember since: July 8, 2006
Replies: 1144paulinem January 21, 2020 at 3:37 pm
I do feel that grownups admin should allow the politics thread to start up again. as it is 2020 our countrys election year. Where we as adults choose our government this year
It is also my understanding that when it comes to actually putting ourselves to vote, Grownups generally do mostly vote for we see voting for our government as our duty as a citizen In voting we see we are showing respect for our ancestors, especially those whom died for this country in the past wars
As grownup we have been around for awhile seen heard most over the years. In my opinion by banning politics they are insulting us by treating us as though we are children whom squabble to much. Politics by its nature we grownup know brings out strong thinking and comments.
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