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  • #1740655
    huiatahi
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    huiatahi

    I think Prince Andrew should be thankful Harry and Meghan seem to have taken the heat off him

    huiatahi

    #1740665
    gabyone
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    gabyone

    I think the news media seem to be beating up on Megan. Some pretty awful things said on talkback this morning & a very biased host. Given Harry’s background I think it is understandable that he might like to step back & away from endless reporters/news media  harassing them. The only supposed direct report from the Queen seemed out of step with what news media are saying.

     

    Gabyone Auckland region

    #1740667
    rob023
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    Member since: October 7, 2011
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    rob023

    I’ve been reading up freedom of speech and have watched several videos, two of which I’ve pasted below.

    Freedom of speech. … In particular, freedom of expression is preserved in section 14 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act.
    Does anyone here have an opinion on how that’s going here in New Zealand in the light of recent ‘events’?

    Here’s Rowan Atkinson on Free Speech.

    What is orthodoxy and who decides it is what it is?

    Here’s one Katie Hopkins speaking at a Oxford University debate on de-platforming.

    “Who will be the arbiter?
    I do not need a person in a position of authority to decide for you what you will be allowed to hear”

    #1740669
    rob023
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    rob023

    Gabyone, biased hosts and biased news media are examples of I/We will decide for you what you will be allowed to hear.
    It’s because of that forcing upon me that I never tune into TVNZ news presentations.

    Personally I admire Harry and Megan for making the decisions they have.

    #1740687
    Hero42
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    Member since: July 18, 2008
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    Hero42

    Not sure what recent events Rob023 is referring to but as far as I can see we are allowed to say and hear what we want as long as it isn’t hate speech which we can do without.

    As far as the arbitrator I would see that as with our democracy the court system. Parliament pass a law and it is up to case law to decide what is acceptable and what isn’t and so far as far as I can see the courts in NZ are getting it right.

    Sometimes it is a case of someone saying you can say that but not in this building or in this institution or on this website or on this thread as it would be inappropriate to do so.

    I know I have posted facts on certain websites pointing out were they were making incorrect assumptions and those posts have been removed by the website administrator. That is OK because that website allows for that to happen. It is in their rules and joining the website commits one to the rules.

    The same applies here on GrownUps although some people get upset when they are admonished for breaking the rules they agreed to when they joined.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1740689
    Hero42
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    Hero42

    As far as biased hosts and news media goes it is the observer who determines that there is a bias, especially if the facts being presented are at variance to what one believes. After all facts are facts and facts cannot be biased.

    On the other hand an opinion is different from facts. Opinions by their very nature will have a bias. However some presenters are more forceful in presenting their opinions as facts rather than just their views.

    Fortunately most of us are sensible enough to listen to the opinion, decide if it is accurate or not, change their mind or not as suits them and move on. Some sadly are not so open minded to the possibility that there are other opinions and facts contrary to their beliefs and just won’t listen to them.

    But that is their right. We live in a free country and there are not re-education camps as there are in some other countries.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1740697
    jens
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    jens

    paulinem  –  yes indeed,  I actually  do  receive  interest  free  credit for  up  to a date  in each month  on my credit  card,  and  if that  purchase sum is repaid  by that  date in the  month.

    But after  that it is expected  to  be re-paid with interest.

    And it is not   “debt free” for the  banks  either, because if I don’t repay it  for  what I bought by  that  date of the month,  the  bank pays it  to the retailer.

    And  paulinem  – if the  bank  could grant  its  credit out of  nothing, there would not be any bankruptcies and no need  for  banks,  and we all  would have to save  much  harder  before we can enjoy ownership  of e.g., a house.

    So there  you are  folks  – boring  as it may be, but is it not utterly desirable and  necessary to enlighten  paulinem and others  with insufficient  knowledge  on  how  banking and the  economy  works,  in order  to  strengthen the  perception of truthful reality ?

    This is not  to kill off  the  debate, but  perhaps those  bored  by it  could  reveal  with explanations  how they  understand the beneficial or  harmful  influences  of  banking in  any economy.

    (Would  we be better off  without  banking?)

    #1740698
    Hero42
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    Member since: July 18, 2008
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    Hero42

    Y2K is back except now it is called the Y2020 bug.

    Back in my days in the IT industry we did the job properly and fixed the bug completely but it seems some people wanting to save money only did a quick fix by interpreting any dates with a year between 00 and 19 as 2000 to 2019 and now some systems are failing as the programmers have moved on the fix hasn’t been updated and the bug has reappeared.

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2229238-a-lazy-fix-20-years-ago-means-the-y2k-bug-is-taking-down-computers-now/?utm_source=NSNEW&utm_campaign=cd90257852-NSNEW_080120&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e65fab71ff-cd90257852-377965291

    The old adage of do it once and do it right comes to mind.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1740732
    gabyone
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    Member since: November 13, 2008
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    gabyone

    Some good news in Herald business today. Seems we are building new homes at the highest level  since 1974. Surely this is a step in right direction to reduce homelessness and poor quality homes that cause ill health. Looking back to 1974 even the low paid for had an opportunity to get into home ownership.

     

    Gabyone Auckland region

    #1740736
    paulinem
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    Member since: July 8, 2006
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    paulinem

    Yes Gabyone you were right ie back in 1974 even the low income had a chance at home ownership. When my sister was married in 1959, her and husband later moved to a new built home in Wainuomata  ( yes spelling maybe wrong :))

    At this time this was possible for her and husband etc as in 1974,  as families back then were paid a individual family benefit  by the state, for  their children they had. In regards the home ownership  for families this was possible as back in the 60s and 70s ( as you mentioned) and maybe the 1980s as well for families were allowed to capitalised on  combined family benefits  payable to them for the growing time of their children until adulthood.

    This sum of money the state gave to them would then be used as a deposit for their home ownership been built etc for them and their family, They also if thier income was low able to get a low interest State advances ( now called Housing corp )  mortgage  to assure ownership of the home This was how  my sister enjoyed home security in her married life with husband and children.

    It is a pity the same is not available for especially low income families today, as such an arrangement would give valuable security of a home to live in for our NZ most important and vulnerable  ie our now and future young families.

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