- #1732780Hero42MemberMember since: July 18, 2008
Replies: 12104Hero42 September 23, 2019 at 1:08 pm
Thanks for the acknowledgement.
No worries about our disagreements after all that is what makes a good debate and you do make a good debater. Lots of facts and references to back up your arguments.
Long may you keep posting.
Cheers 🙂#1732781Hero42MemberMember since: July 18, 2008
Replies: 12104Hero42 September 23, 2019 at 1:19 pm
It is true the world population and the effects of climate change are going to be an issue going forward and will have a big effect on the global economy.
This latest report does not bode well for the world as it shows the predictions made in the past may be tending toward the worse case scenarios as actual climate change speeds up.
The five-year period from 2014 to 2019 is the warmest on record.
Sea-level rise has accelerated significantly over the same period, as CO2 emissions have hit new highs.
The average rate of rise since 1993 until now is 3.2mm per year.
The 10-year period from 2007-2016 saw an average of about 4mm per year.
From May 2014 to 2019 the rise has increased to 5mm per year.#1732833jens September 23, 2019 at 4:53 pm
Thanks folks for the indirect and direct wishes and encouragements to keep the debates going after all –
and arandar, is not the most enlightening way to stand up for the economic solutions you believe in by challenging, questioning and submitting evidence and counterarguments to what many see as just my (???) solutions ?
And halcyon, on at least one occasion I believe to remember, that you evaded comment on the pros and cons of an economic proposal with the words “I (just) don’t like it (in principle?)”
However let bygones be bygones, and let us not be too much concerned about who said what and when, because what was more relevant then, might be different now.
And everyone please relax in the knowledge that “without saving and profitable investment we would still have to survive as cave dwelling hunters and gatherers” is not my economic theory at all, but an experienced reality since the first laboriously polished stone ax.
halcyon and TedE – I will raise for discussion the doubts you expressed about the value of savings on the economics thread.#1732840huiatahi September 23, 2019 at 7:03 pm
😯 Well seeing interest rates are so low and I’m not prepared to venture into the share market and suchlike, I’m going to spend a bit on a new car and a bit of travel in the next few months
Jens I hope I don’t give you nightmares 😡 😡
huiatahi#1732855jens September 23, 2019 at 8:27 pm
huiatahi, if you have reached the accepted free to retire age of 65 you can relax and enjoy the consumption of the wealth you have saved or maintained.
In my (soon great-) grandfatherly wisdom I would still recommend that you not “splash” it all at once, but make it last to keep your life joyfully relaxed until the end of your days – and have something left over for your descendants or a worthy cause of your liking.
Bur yes, I would seriously reprimand you (without nightmares) if you did not spend a bit on a new car and travel next month, but the lot – and then complain poverty, and “not enough super” later.
Interest rates are not negative in NZ yet, and for the benefit of TedE and halcyon it is worth while to mention, that most of the NZ Super Fund and KiwiSavings are invested in tangible assets which retain their value in the case of runaway inflation or even total collapse of the currency.#1732858huiatahi September 23, 2019 at 8:46 pm
I am well over the age of retirement Jens, and rest assured I’m not going to splash the lot
huiatahi#1732859jens September 23, 2019 at 9:04 pm
Good on you, huiatahi, and is your good fortune the result of a lot of luck alone (did you win a jackpot or inherit a fortune?) –
or did you actually save and invest from your income ?#1732860sir-nigel-gresleyMemberMember since: January 10, 2017
Replies: 975sir-nigel-gresley September 23, 2019 at 9:11 pm
Voting for council papers arrived today. Haven’t opened mine yet, not sure who is who! I’m not in the Invercargill city area, but four members vying for the Mayoral job will be interesting. A four horse race is bound to put Sir Tim Shadbolt back in for another term. 🙂
A lot of turmoil going on in the Invers council chambers lately.
Happy Valley#1732861huiatahi September 23, 2019 at 9:49 pm
No I didn’t win lotto or inherit a fortune…I worked hard and saved. And this is what we mean when we say you’re preaching to the converted. It’s what our generation was raised to do. I suggest you go and preach elsewhere.
huiatahi#1732863paulinemMemberMember since: July 8, 2006
Replies: 1029paulinem September 24, 2019 at 7:34 am
Voting for council papers arrived today. Haven’t opened mine yet, not sure who is who! I’m not in the Invercargill city area, but four members vying for the Mayoral job will be interesting. A four horse race is bound to put Sir Tim Shadbolt back in for another term. 🙂 A lot of turmoil going on in the Invers council chambers lately.
I sincerely hope not Sir Nigel that Shadbolt is not return, as he hasnt provided good leadership for years. He is just a very expensive ( to the ratepayer )song bird that unfortunately has managed to get a large blinded local fan base whom stupidly believe he is good for Invercargill.
Shadbolt has been contested every election for years, but sadly because the vote has been often been split (re contenders in election ) he has remained in power. Upsettingly under Tims wasteful expenditure our rates have continued to rise as result. All to pander to Tims whims and friends on council ( which he deliberately maneuvers to gain in council) to assures he has their support have indulged in often stupid inexcusable expenditure which has accordingly occurred.
What has shocked me( was a comment which came from most people of grown up age) when I said the women candidate Bec’s whom is standing for Mayor ( in opposition to Tim this election,) would be a far better mayor for the city with good leadership and community ideas. Was the comment made oh but shes a women she will be no good.
They were silent when I mentioned the women mayor Eve Poole we had just before Tim came here from Auckland was one of the best Mayors we ever had and even today ( she died soon after leaving council ) is still remembered by most in the city with warm good memories as leaving the city in good heart when she finished her service as our Mayor
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