- #1729511supergoldMemberMember since: May 9, 2009
Replies: 8989supergold August 14, 2019 at 9:34 pm
This week I answered the ‘phone and a female, english, voice said, more or less ” this is to inform you that in the next few days your line will be disconnected due it being compromised from overseas. For Telecom press 1, for Spark press 2″
I’ve had a couple of calls from the same woman you had and I just hung up on her.
Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)#1729523mommabear70MemberMember since: February 20, 2017
Replies: 1956mommabear70 August 15, 2019 at 9:55 am
I read that teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg will set sail for New York on Wednesday, crossing the Atlantic in a 60 foot racing yacht to join protests in the United States and take part in a United Nations summit.
To avoid traveling by air, Thunberg is making her trans-Atlantic trip on board the Malizia II, fitted with solar panels and underwater turbines that produce electricity onboard, with the aim of making the journey zero-carbon.
Someone conveniently omitted telling Greta her choice of transport is a carbon fiber racing yacht, with a huge carbon footprint as it is made from oil and is non-recyclable.
I wonder why her father didn’t build her a wooden yacht and dispensed with all the oil based gadgetry.
Malizia II, like the rest of the yachts in the Imoca 60 class, is constructed from high-tech carbon fiber composites to make it ultra-light and fast. It is the ultimate play thing of the wealthy elite. These boats are made of hydrocarbons, not to mention all the energy it took to make them. Carbon fiber composites are primarily made from propane and petroleum. This boat was pumped out of the ground…The Monaco Yacht Club is among the sponsors paying for the trip. They removed all the corporate sponsor logos from the yacht so as not to be associated with the capitalist prosperity that built it. Ending air travel is nihilism. Going back to sailing to cross oceans is a 19th-century solution that cannot meet 21st-century travel needs. This makes no economic, logistical, or ecological sense.
Remember this teenage activist saying “We need to keep the fossil fuels in the ground.”?
This boat was pumped out of the ground.#1729524halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4939halcyon August 15, 2019 at 10:03 am
From the USA media (CBN News). Food for thought.
“US stock markets plunged again Wednesday, based on fears that a possible recession could be on the way. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost a whopping 800 points and the Nasdaq sank roughly 242 points while the S&P 500 sank 85 points.
Economists and investors are concerned that the government bond market is sending a warning signal that the economy could fall into a recession.
Normally, in a healthy economy, longer-term interest rates are higher than short term rates. But when short-term interest rates rise above long term rates, it’s called an “inverted yield curve”, and it’s happening now.
In the past, that’s been followed by a recession within several months to two years. That could force the Federal Reserve to cut short-term interest rates soon to try to avoid a recession.”
It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.
#1729526BryanMemberMember since: October 28, 2006
- This reply was modified 5 days, 22 hours ago by halcyon.
Replies: 12447Bryan August 15, 2019 at 10:14 am
Yes I also have had several of those calls but it was an Asian sounding male calling. I did just the same as you did but I also called the Police and Scam centre. The advice was also to do just as we have and hang up- don’t engage with any conversation with them & not to antagonise them.
I have since had 3 or 4 calls on one day (Bloody annoying) and a friend of a friend apparently was caught out and followed the instructions and had her bank accounts emptied out by the time she hung up. Whether that’s a true story or not I don’t know but it costs nothing to be careful does it?
A different friend (Yes I do have 2) tells me she lets the answerphone take incoming calls and rings people back.
At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki#1729528Hero42 August 15, 2019 at 11:49 am
You have to admire Greta Thunberg. Others would take a plane to go to the protest meeting but Greta Thunberg is going to go by the lowest carbon footprint voyage available which will take two weeks.
Her commitment is such that she is prepared to sacrifice a 6 hour flight for a two week cramped yacht journey with no toilets, kitchen or privacy.
Of course there are those who will nitpick that to build the yacht CO2 will be produced but as we all know it takes CO2 production to have the society we currently have and no one is asking we give that up, just minimise our CO2 production or even offset it to the point of having a negative effect.
This yacht is produced by Malizia. Malizia is up there in terms of actively contributing to ocean research and the impacts of climate change on marine environments. The boat makers recently joined the UN-Initiative Sports for Climate Action and recycle its used sails while avoiding the use of plastics.
We should also note carbon fibre is made from organic polymers, which consist of long strings of molecules held together by carbon atoms. Most carbon fibers (about 90%) are made from the polyacrylonitrile (PAN) process.
There is now a process were algae convert the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere or from power stations or the steel industry onto algae oil. In a next step the oil is used to make useful carbon fibres. So carbon fibre production and building carbon fibre yachts could have a negative carbon effect
So the yacht wasn’t pumped out of the ground as some scaremongers claim. But we do know who is financing the websites that put out this nonsense.
Malizia says the boatyards that construct the yachts are aware of the resulting and indisputable environmental impact during boat construction and attach great importance on a sustainable building process.
Therefore moulds are made with recycled dry carbon fibre and reused for building the hulls and decks of several new boats.
Old carbon fibre material is also turned into powder and reused in resins for further construction, and all sorts of construction materials are recycled and reused on new boats.
Cheers 🙂#1729529Hero42 August 15, 2019 at 11:51 am
The inverted yield curve is a potential sign of a recession but as to when it happens is another matter.
Cheers 🙂#1729533halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4939halcyon August 15, 2019 at 1:45 pm
True Hero, and it may not happen. However, the possibility of it happening is increasing. Just look at other factors. The following quote comes from Newshub dated yesterday.
However, dwindling visitor numbers are concerning tourism leaders with an eight percent decline in the Chinese market.
Tourism is a good “canary in the mine” as it is one of the first industries to be hit by an economic downturn.
It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.#1729534paulinemMemberMember since: July 8, 2006
Replies: 980paulinem August 15, 2019 at 1:53 pm
Ahh Grownups NO Politics on this thread, we do want admin to close this thread down as well do we ! Mommabear and Hero both your comments are political !#1729548Hero42 August 15, 2019 at 3:42 pm
I don’t believe that post was political as it did not mention any political parties or policies.
I thought it was social as it is something that effects us all and as such any inaccurate reporting should be counteracted by publishing the truth.
However if ADMIN think it is political I will happily refrain from posting on the subject as those who continue to disbelieve are very much in the minority.
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