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    Profile photo of farmer008farmer008
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    farmer008

    The liberal view of hate speech is anything that is critical of the liberal leftie point of view.

    The rise of the Right in Britain which is pro Brexit anti immigrant and in Europe which is also anti immigrant is a reaction to the liberal agenda that is determined to destroy western values.

    One right wing Hungarian, in a speech stated that all immigrants should be placed in internment camps along with every liberal already identified

    The future of our western freedoms are at stake .
    About time the UN and liberal politicians verbally attacked the leadership of African and other nations who are pushing their citizens into the sea.
    Two of the worlds wealthiest countries are two of the most despotic with their treatment of their poor, they are Nigeria and Venezuela.

    Where is the liberal point of view on the European fence anti immigrant fences already built and where is the liberal on the 600 mile wall that Obama built

    Hopefully Trump gets his wall and Britain exits the EU and takes control of its borders and that European nations rid themselves of this EU lot and replace it with something that puts European values to the fore.
    The Ozzies have the right idea , Deport anyone who does not adopt Australian ideals

    #1707129
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    huiatahi

    The Ozzies have the right idea , Deport anyone who does not adopt Australian ideals

     

    If New Zealand did the same thing here I think you might be on a fast boat to somewhere else farmer

    huiatahi

    #1707131
    Profile photo of farmer008farmer008
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    farmer008

    Would you deport every New Zealand born citizen who opposed your views

    That is a Racist comment from a simple mind.

    #1707133
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    huiatahi

    No…but Id deport those who consistently breached the Race Relations Act

    huiatahi

    #1707138
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    Bryan

    Bryan
    I think you are comparing Apples with Pairs.
    When you refer to subsidence on the runup to the tanker wash at Whareroa You are referring to on site activity that I would suspect was never prepared to carry the weight of a full tanker
    No way can this reflect as an example of truck damage to roads

    Good morning. The subsidence I refer to in the run up to the tanker wash “was” prepared to SH1 standard in the first place. Perhaps a better reference point would be the intersection of SH3 and Whareroa Road. I haven’t been down there for some good time but when I was driving it was in a constant state of repair. Of course part of the problem at that corner can be attributed to scuffing caused by turning dual axles although they also happens with logging trucks on normal roads. Talking of dual axles I wonder how much worse tri axels go for extra ware and tare.

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1707140
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    paulinem

    Farmer on ANZAC day we gather together and commemorate those that gave their lives, so that NZ would remain a DEMOCRATIC FREE society. A society where  the citizens are entitled to freely express and to have their own spiritual and political viewpoint. Yes Farmer this means be allowed even to publicly express a view point that is different to your own.

    What you have posted above grossly insults the memory and service these brave NZers whom  gave their lives just  to assure we would remain a free democratic country (and not controlled by selfish self serving ego driven people like Trump) for our future generations.

    #1707142
    Profile photo of lilith7lilith7
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    lilith7

    Hate speech,definitions.

    “online dictionary:

    1. abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation.
      “we don’t tolerate any form of hate speech”

    NZ Law society definition:

    https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/news-and-communications/latest-news/news/when-is-it-hate-speech

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0082/latest/DLM304643.html

    “Racial disharmony

    (1)

    It shall be unlawful for any person—
    (a)

    to publish or distribute written matter which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, or to broadcast by means of radio or television or other electronic communication words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or
    (b)

    to use in any public place as defined in section 2(1) of the Summary Offences Act 1981, or within the hearing of persons in any such public place, or at any meeting to which the public are invited or have access, words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or
    (c)

    to use in any place words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting if the person using the words knew or ought to have known that the words were reasonably likely to be published in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television,—

    being matter or words likely to excite hostility against or bring into contempt any group of persons in or who may be coming to New Zealand on the ground of the colour, race, or ethnic or national origins of that group of persons.

    (2)

    It shall not be a breach of subsection (1) to publish in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television or other electronic communication a report relating to the publication or distribution of matter by any person or the broadcast or use of words by any person, if the report of the matter or words accurately conveys the intention of the person who published or distributed the matter or broadcast or used the words.

    (3)

    For the purposes of this section,—

    newspaper means a paper containing public news or observations on public news, or consisting wholly or mainly of advertisements, being a newspaper that is published periodically at intervals not exceeding 3 months

    publishes or distributes means publishes or distributes to the public at large or to any member or members of the public

    written matter includes any writing, sign, visible representation, or sound recording.”

     

    Not a damned thing to do with what liberals see as hate speech,but rather,something which applies to everyone.

     

    I’ve had posts removed too, & as there was never anything offensive or insulting,its difficult to tell if its just a glitch of some sort or if,for reasons best known to themselves,admin removed them.

    Perhaps someone objects to the use of the word troll?

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by Profile photo of lilith7 lilith7. Reason: MORE gobbledegook!
    #1707146
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    doogie

    I agree Brian, scuffing on tight turns at intersections by a laden trucks can be damaging.

    #1707302
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    Anonymous

    Hi Bry, Doogie – with reference to bitumen/asphalt – a lot determines on what time of the year it is applied on how good it will adhere to the roads/drives etc.  That is why, when potholes in the road filled in during winter don’t last long.  Most private paving companies leave in late Autumn and go to Florida for the winter around here.  The townships will fill in an obvious driving hazard only during the winter.  Do your road works keep paving all year?

    #1707320
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    arandar

    Mommabear, good question.

    I was very imprecise and loose with that definition. I suppose I was short cutting to one part of that particular human right that is important to me – the right of citizens to criticise their government without fear of being incarcerated without trial or disappeared – as an ex-journalist.

    Under S19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, we all have the right to express our opinions.

    It is not an unlimited right nor is it a right that, if misused, does not have consequences.

    This may help to clarify – from Wikipedia but generally accepted as being correct and true.

    “Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury. Justifications for such include the harm principle, proposed by John Stuart Mill in On Liberty, which suggests that: “the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.”[3]

    And I totally support that final sentence from John Stuart Mill.

    Arandar

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