- #1662260joybelMemberMember since: November 2, 2006
Replies: 33300joybel January 13, 2018 at 10:33 am
Another grey day and the same tomorrow and the next. Great summer. Yes the oceans have become rubbish dumps thanks to our complacency, and many creatures are in peril as a result. I have no education on plastics, how it is produced, if there is any way it can be made to break down and become neutral . The place to begin would be to ban its use as food wrapping and bring back paper and cardboard in its place. There is possibly a need for it in our world today but how would we cope with any other type of wrapping. Paper usually ended up in the fire and then fossil fuel became banned and our fires and chimneys were banned. Convenience to the consumer is the crutch used to justify its throwaway benefits. There is usually somewhere to place the blame but synthetics have been around a long time now yet should not the blame be on the Govt”s which have either capitulated to cash benefits or too complacent to refuse the the introduction of even more and more man made products.
Another refuse problem it seems is car tyres which are piling up in hidden dumping places waiting to be discovered. Western humans are the earths polluters as it is all about gaining more and more time to make more millions of dollars which are really nonexistent in the literal sense. The latest is the plastic beads turning up at our beaches. Banning these from entering our shores now is just a spit in the ocean. They are as dangerous as firearms and should banned from luggage. Supermarkets are the terrorists in this and the struggle to release the meat and veges I buy from the plastic encasing it is becoming more difficult and filling my rubbish tin. I believe it is too late for the planet and even closing down the plastic manufacturing for wrapping will not work. I believe a blind eye was turned by all concerned in this criminal manufacturing cash cow and now we have to bear the fallout.#1662261lilith7MemberMember since: April 9, 2017
Replies: 1809lilith7 January 13, 2018 at 10:51 am
The mention of car tyres reminded me that during a news report about the high holiday road toll,one of the factors mentioned as a contributor was the lack of road divider barriers on motorways & cost was said to be partly why there aren’t enough.
I wonder if it might be feasible to use old tyres filled with concrete,as barriers? They surely wouldn’t cost as much & might be a way to recycle old tyres.
I’ve also read that tyres can be shredded,then used in roading surfaces, & I know they can also be used in making houses. We meed to be doing more of that,using stuff no longer needed because it can still be useful.#1662262bobbity January 13, 2018 at 10:55 am
Did anyone see the news item on TVOne news tonight re the problem of plastic waste here in NZ? There is 250000 tonnes of plastic waste going into landfill in NZ EVERY year!!! As an example of this plastic waste…..there was found on one of our beaches a plastic lollipop stick & a plastic peanut bag, both still in good condition, that dated back to the 80’s. They hadn’t degraded at all. Over in the UK they are trying out plastic free aisles in their supermarkets. Sounds like a good idea to me. I hope it really takes on!
Yes I saw it Val and I immediately thought of this thread and you. Amazing about those old plastics but we shouldn’t be surprises I suppose to have the proof that plastic never breaks down. There are some plastic bags that do break down into little pieces, but I haven’t kept those long enough to see if those little pieces disappear into nothingness. 🙂
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♫♪✿(◠‿◠)✿♥♫♪#1662263bobbity January 13, 2018 at 10:57 am
The mention of car tyres reminded me that during a news report about the high holiday road toll,one of the factors mentioned as a contributor was the lack of road divider barriers on motorways & cost was said to be partly why there aren’t enough. I wonder if it might be feasible to use old tyres filled with concrete,as barriers? They surely wouldn’t cost as much & might be a way to recycle old tyres. I’ve also read that tyres can be shredded,then used in roading surfaces, & I know they can also be used in making houses. We meed to be doing more of that,using stuff no longer needed because it can still be useful.
lilith, wonderful to read that about the tyres usages, and also a great idea from you re barriers on the roads. 🙂
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♫♪✿(◠‿◠)✿♥♫♪#1662264bobbity January 13, 2018 at 11:05 am
…. I hope something is seriously being done worldwide, and for us especially in NZ, NOW to get rid of plastic manufacturing. How powerful are the corporations that manufacture plastic goods – is their influence on our politicians stronger than the very real evidence of plastic pollution on our beaches, in our landfill & waste areas and especially the sea? Is there any responsible ‘body’ here in NZ concerned about the fact that through the food chain we are ingesting plastic particles in our sea food & possibly our drinking water? I genuinely don’t know! We lived for so many many years without plastic – can’t we live without it now?
We’re ingesting it in foods and drinks Val, wherever our food and drinks touch plastic it is absorbed and then into our bodies it goes. I think of little babies having their milk heated in plastic bottles, so bad.
You sound to me that you could be the one to ‘get out there’ and be the beginnings of the ‘body’ concerned about this serious problem. 🙂 You have the ooomph. 🙂
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♫♪✿(◠‿◠)✿♥♫♪#1662354vale019 January 13, 2018 at 9:09 pm
Bobbity – the spirit is willing but the body is dragging the chain unfortunately – [brings a tear to the eye, don’t it? ]#1662371bobbity January 14, 2018 at 1:29 am
It does Val and it must be so frustrating for you. 😥
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♫♪✿(◠‿◠)✿♥♫♪#1662475vale019 January 14, 2018 at 9:40 pm
Great posts, Joybel & Lilith. Joybel, I do hope there can be a reversal but it needs to start right now. We are flooded with plastic.
I was using some prescription cream today from a plastic pot. I was putting it on with a cotton bud on a plastic stick. Looking around the bathroom – pill bottles are all plastic, shampoo & hair mousse bottles are plastic, toothbrushes, toothpaste tube. The toilet seats & cistern are plastic. The shower is plastic. I am sure the vanity is plastic + the containers I keep nail polish in & sundry cosmetics are all plastic. The light switches are plastic. AND so are my dentures, I think!!!!! waaaa.
As you posted tyres are a HUGE problem that also needs to be addressed urgently.
And what happens to all the cell phones when they are discarded? I am positive they are not biodegradable, even the landline phones are now plastic.
You are SO right when you say a blind eye was turned – it comes back to the almighty dollar & that obviously speaks louder then we, the consumer.#1662478bobbity January 14, 2018 at 9:54 pm
😆 Yes dentures are plastic Val unless yours were made way back, then they would be a heavy porcelain. Those ones never wore out btw. Mine broke after dropping them and they were replaced with lightweight plastic type material. 😀
PS just went and looked… It is made of acrylic, sometimes in combination with various metals.
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