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NZ road toll – what is acceptable?

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  • #1732155
    TedE
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    TedE

    Most of you will remember the cars we drove in the 50”s were much slower to wind up and get to 30mph. Also slower took longer to stop. We generally traveled at less than the speed limit, especially in town. On the pen road it was very seldom we managed the speed limit of 50mph. I remember the first time we exceeded the speed limit in 1949. Most drivers had also been cyclists at some stage and were more considerate of the pedestrians and cyclists.

    If we are going to make a reasonable transition to a low carbon economy I feel we have just about reached peak car. We need to make alternative transport decisions to using our single occupancy vehicle for our commuting. That means that we need to encourage those single use drivers to use alternatives and that means that must continue to use motorised vehicles (whether ICE or electric) will have more room on the road. Too achieve this we need to make sure the public transport is serving the new housing developments so that the new residents are able to use it from the time they move in.

    This means that our roading system needs to be used in such a way as to be safer for all road users whether pedestrian, scooter or bisyscle.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1732207
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    Well Said Ted!

    From time to time I have a chit that with todays crop of HT Drivers and they are horrified when I tell them when I started driving the BIG trucks of the day were 9 ton and the open road speed limit for anything over 3 tom was 30mph! As for bagging and delivering sacks of coal humping it around to the bin at the back of the house! They think I’m mad or something! But that was part of the job! Like it or lump it!

    Still that was what the job entailed and most drivers were happy to do the jobs it was.

    I wonder how they would have got on with an iron frame piano?

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1732257
    coogee1g
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    coogee1g

    Reading the other day regarding Road Deaths and Accidents on our roads is the number of people who use there phones while driving.

    Whoever would have thought of that.

    #1733121
    TedE
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    TedE

    It is good to see the funds going back into rail. It is time we started to use the modern tech to reduce the carnage and make more efficient use of our energy. Container handling is now so much better than when I was young where we used to unload bags of fertiliser from rail wagons onto trucks to be spread via horse dawn spreaders, or loaded into the drill along with the seed or from the bag to be mixed on the tray with seed and shoveled into a hopper to be loaded into the Tiger Moth.

    Loading hay onto the truck was an art form especially so after several years of stacking it when there was no wire available for baling it during the war.

    The first year we had wire after the war I remember cos that’s when I hurt my back, cos those bales didn’t bounce when they hit the ground they just went “THUNK” and laid there. Soon after that they started limiting the wool bales to 300lbs cos a good presser could get up to 500 into them and then when they were double dumped for export they created problems.
    Those heavy bales made loads on the trucks after the war really interesting and produced some interesting rides for me as a kid.

    Great fun thinking back to the “Good Old Days”.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1733145
    don021
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    don021

    And stacking hay bales on a truck in the paddock was an “art”, stacked the wrong way and the pile would fall off on a slope or bump. It was a great day when elevators were introduced to take bales up to the truck deck and above. Paddocks of thistles brought wrath down on a farmer’s head.

    #1733163
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    The hard part was throwing up the last three or four bales to top off the load.

    And look out for the driver that drove too fast across to the shed and lost a few bales!!

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

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    #1733463
    TedE
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    TedE

    In the late 1950’s I came across a Dutch family in the Whenuakura area who used 2 men to a bale of hay and pitch fork each and one man on the truck stacking, they really moved with rythm and 3 men could load a truck in a surprisingly quick time and with great accuracy.
    This was before the common use of the bale loaders.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1733472
    Bryan
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    Just after I was married I was renting a house just out of Wakefield south of Nelson. Part of the deal was to help with some of the farm chores, putting in hay was one of them, The first year I was there was the first time they had used a secondhand loader and apparently previous to that they had used that method of loading.

    That was the closest I have come to it. Something else I came across down there was a farm where they had “Round Bales” the same size as conventional bales but round with wire ties. This was before they brought out Big Round bales.

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1735909
    TedE
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    TedE

    There seems to be a reluctance to understand the need to reduce speeds on our roads.
    Especially in Auckland where the AA has spoken out against the revised speed limits. I made submissions to the AA supporting the Auckland proposal and felt that the limits need to be revised over a much wider area of NZ. However the AA seems to have taken the opposite view and spoken out against the changes. All roads where there is no physical separation between opposing traffic should be less than 80kkph.
    In our urban streets where there are parked cars and children walking to school and playing.

    I find it hard to understand how our city planners keep planning for continued growth in single occupancy cars as a means of commuting, when we have a carbon emissions crisis. It seems that we need to be acting far more responsibly.

    It seems to me we should be starting to measure vehicle tail pipe emissions at WOF time to use that as a basis for registration fee. The higher the emissions the higher the fee. We should also be adding a surcharge to all imported vehicles for their rated tailpipe emissions over the life of the vehicle to try and reduce the number of ICE vehicles being imported, especially those being taken off the road in the country of origin. We are ending up with the old high emission vehicles of SE Asia and Europe where they are becoming unsaleable.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1735925
    Bryan
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    I find it hard to understand how our city planners keep planning for continued growth in single occupancy cars as a means of commuting, when we have a carbon emissions crisis. It seems that we need to be acting far more responsibly.

    Firstly there is at least one city lowering it’s speed limit already, that’s New Plymouth with the CBD at 30kph (or 40). Did anyone watch “Highway Cops” this last week? in which a Policewoman pulled up an Asian Gentlemen (I use the term loosely) for having 1 person in a 2 person lane? If he was in a better frame of mind he may have gotten off but NO he was “Most” put out, then to make it worse he ran out onto the road to stop his boss (and the rest of that lane) and explain why he was going to be late. Was better than some of what they dish up as comedy in this day and age!

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

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