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NZ road toll – what is acceptable?

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  • #1723767
    TedE
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    TedE

    We use a Garmin GPS system and our Prius is consistently 7kph out at open road speeds but is a bit less at 40kph. I;m not too sure as to how mush out the GPS is.

    We still seem to be killing far to many Kiwi’s and I’m very disappointed in the AA’s response to the NZTA proposed changes to the speed limits. There is a lot of evidence that supports the NZTA position and I support their approach.

    I have responded to 2 survey’s by AA and made my feelings/preferences known but they still proceed with their opposition which I find hard to stomach.

    https://at.govt.nz/speed

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1724493
    phun83179
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    phun83179

    We recently went on a road trip from Masterton to Opotiki and back. That was (in round figures) about 1,200 kilometres. We saw just three Highway Patrol cars in all that time! We also experienced some appalling driving, including dangerous overtaking, and general risk-taking.

    As I have noted before, impatience is the number one problem with NZ drivers and the other is speed! I have driven over 1.5 million km’s in the last 50 years, and the most noticeable thing is NZers need to be out at the front! I’ll be driving on the open road along a straight section with no vehicle in my mirror. Next thing a vehicle will appear, catch me up, overtake and disappear all in the space of a few minutes. Whilst I will have been cruising at a steady 98-100 km/h, what speed has that other motorist been doing?

    On the same trip we caught up with an SUV towing a caravan. Knowing he would (legally) be doing 90 km/h, I waited for an opportunity to pass. We followed for about 45 minutes, but no opportunity arose, so we kept 6/7 car lengths behind. At times we clocked him at 102 km/h, but mostly he was doing about 100. Eventually he realised we would probably want to pass, and he pulled over at a suitable spot and we finally got past. Had there been a Highway Patrol with a speed camera sitting on the side of the road, he would probably been pulled up.

    I believe that we need at least double the number of Highway Patrol vehicles out there watching the traffic. From my observation the only way to get motorists to obey the road rules is to see more enforcement officers out there keeping an eye on what motorists are up to.

    phun83179

    #1729816
    TedE
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    TedE

    Thought that this may be of interest to some:

    Safety-washing?

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1729915
    phun83179
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    phun83179

    Just caught up with your post, TedE. I found it very interesting as I have been interested in the traffic problems in Auckland for a number of years.

    I see that Puhinui Station is to be closed fro a couple of years.

    One of the suggested ideas was to run light rail from downtown to Auckland airport. I believe this to be wrong. The proposed route is partly along Dominion Road. Having experienced the congestion on that road (photographic evidence from decades back proves my point) I think you would understand what I am talking about.

    I have physically checked out light rail in Manchester, Edinburgh, London Tramlink (was Croydon tram-link) and Docklands Light Railway,and I recently read an article on the new tram-train in Sheffield. This is a pilot scheme that has not been a great success, but still shows how it works. There are two tram-train operations in Germany, but the British had to go their own way and (apparently) missed the opportunity to learn from them. I have not thought out if any tram-train systems might be applicable to Auckland, but two routes on the Wellington suburban system would be a good fit. They are Johnsonville to Wellington Station and then on to the airport if light rail is chosen, and similarly Melling to Wellington Station and on to the airport. Unless you have actually seen the flexibility of a tram system, it may be hard to imagine the convenience and advantages of it. However go to youtube.com and look up those that I have mentioned. There are about six others in UK and many in Continental Europe and even some American cities have embraced the idea after abandoning them 4 to 5 decades ago.

    phun83179

    #1731135
    TedE
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    TedE

    Thnaks PHUN81739, My wife spent 2 weeks in Mountain View hospital in Salt Lake City. i was in a hotel downtown. I used the tram system to get around in that period and found it very easy to use. It was slow and steady and used by many low income workers. We also used the light rail system to get to the Newark airport. In the UK there are many examples also in Vancouver. The best PT system was in Zurich (ZVV) in my opinion.

    The main thing is for the timetables to be well set out and reliable. we didn’t mind how long it took as long as we could rely on it. We always made sure we allowed plenty of time for things to go wrong and for missed connections cos in a lot of cases we needed to use more than one mode or route. So predictability and reliability is important. Cost was also a factor that we used in deciding on the methods.

    We live in Papakura and to get to AIA the train to Papatoetoe and then bus to the airport is good. it takes a while but still we plan for that. It is available on Gold Card if your flight times allow for that.

    At present the southern line two track system is restricting the freight usage of the corridor and it is likely to do so for the foreseeable future. The addition of line to the airport would mean that the commuter use of the corridor will be further restricted by adding the running of heavy rail to the airport. The bus situation on Dominion and Mt Albert Rd’s is getting to the stage that there is becoming a need to increase their numbers. This is leading to bus congestion in the city. Congestion on these routes would be greatly improved by removing all parking on bus routes and implementing all traffic gives way to turning buses, this would facilitate buses being better able to keep to timetable. But it does not overcome the present situation where buses are often full by the time they get to Balmoral Rd so passengers are left at the bus stops from there on in (even with increasing numbers of double deckers).

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1731182
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    I am old enough to remember trams in Wellington and can remember the council relaying the rails in cement. The stupidest thing the council ever did was to tear them up and switch to diesel and trolly buses. I understand the business mens association even offered to take them over between the Railway Stn., and Courtney Place (the golden mile as it was always known) and run them free as a service to the central city shoppers. IMHO they are still the best form of transport in the narrow centre city streets.

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1731566
    phun83179
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    phun83179

    The other problem that I didn’t mention in my recent post was following too close. This occurs both in a built-up area (therefore mainly 50km/h or less) and on the open road. Many times I have had a car so close to me on the open road I couldn’t see their headlights (I mean during daylight!). Recently I had to drive a commercial vehicle at night, and there

    were so many hoons on the road, I was glad I don’t very often have to do it. Two cars going in the opposite direction were clearly racing, the roar of their engines drowned out the noise of my (heavy) vehicle almost completely.

    phun83179

    #1731607
    don021
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    don021

    I remember the tram lines being removed in Auckland and was amazed to see the road in Karangahape Road was surfaced on wooden blocks about a foot cube. This explained why in wet weather as a vehicle drove over the road, jets of water would squirt up through cracks in the surface.

    #1731643
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    I don’t know about the rest of Wgton but the tracks were laid in cement and that was done not very long before they stopped running them.

    I don’t suppose when it’s somebody else money you are spending.

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1731644
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    Hi I may wake up soon!! 😎 😎

    I should have said that I was meaning that that was in Lambton Quay.

    Senior Moment!! 😎 😎

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

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