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NZ road toll – what is acceptable?

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  • #1716262
    lilith7
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    lilith7

    I came across this a while ago,might be useful if we adopt it here.

     

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104359784/do-as-the-swedes-have-done-on-roads

     

    “In comparison, 254 people were killed on the roads in Sweden in the same year. Sweden has a population of roughly double New Zealand’s. That makes New Zealand’s roads about three times as deadly.
    This despite Sweden having a much harsher and darker climate with snowy and icy roads several months per year. Drivers there also have to be cautious of collisions with wild animals like moose, boar and deer.

    1. All 100 km/h roads today (those not having median barriers) must be labelled for 70 km/h, preferably with speed cameras
    2. Make it mandatory to have the headlights turned on all the time

     

    3. In the cities, the speed must go down as well. Where cars, pedestrians and bicycles are sharing the roads, 40 km/h is implemented in Sweden.

     

     

    There are other details, but these are simple enough to put into use here without much disruption.

    • This reply was modified 8 months ago by  lilith7. Reason: gobbledegook
    #1716281
    TedE
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    TedE

    Thank you Lilith, yes I think those proposals you set out are a good way to start:
    1. All 100 km/h roads today (those not having median barriers) must be labelled for 70 km/h, preferably with speed cameras

    2. Make it mandatory to have the headlights turned on all the time

    3. In the cities, the speed must go down as well. Where cars, pedestrians and bicycles are sharing the roads, 40 km/h is implemented in Sweden.

    That’s an interesting link.
    The Swedish have done a lot more things that we could emulate.
    We need to teach our grandchildren to drive to the conditions well. So many seem to think that if a road is designated 100kph then you must be able to drive it at 110kph at all times in all conditions and around all the corners. If they cannot make it it’s the roads fault or the car doesn’t have sufficient safety features.

    I find it inexcusable that the AA is opposing the 30kpph proposal for auckland’s CBD. When the AA called for members to complete a survey a while ago I raised this issue. now for them to oppose it when it will kill more of their members as well as pedestrians and others who are not likely to be members very short sighted.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1716541
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

    Wow, so in Sweden pedestrians share the roads with cars.

     

    #1716544
    doogie
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    doogie

    To enforce an open road speed limit of 70 KPH no vehicles should be allowed on the road unless a minimum count of twenty were preceded by a pilot vehicle flashing red lights displaying no passing signs while traveling strictly at the 70 K limit. Ques 15-20 k long would be more economical to police. Lets do this.

    #1716553
    coogee1g
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    coogee1g

    Reading the Statistics Put out by the Ministry of Transport on the causes of these Road Deaths is a eye opener.The number of unlicensed and disqualified drivers. The number of drunken drivers.

    Drivers identified as evading enforcement officers or racing or showing off at times of crashes.

    Don’t know what the answer is but pretty scary reading.

    #1719944
    TedE
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    TedE

    The answer is the Target Zero that has been announced.

    The modification of highways with median separation for 100kph roads. Reduction of speed limits of various levels for different types of roads as set out in previous posts.

    There also needs to be a changed mindset for drivers which is going to be harder to bring about. They need to thin more about driving to the conditions and be more conscious of getting saffely to their destination. Allowing more time to enjoy the journey and ensure that the arrive at their destination.

    Hopefully the changes in the carbon costs will make drivers more conscious of driving economically and overcoming or not adopting the “Brmmmmm, brmmmmmmmm, brrrrrmmmmmmmm” mentality. I think with our burgeoning population the days of driving as we did as young people are over and no longer a responsible attitude. It is certain that within the larger urban areas the projected growth will make the use of single occupancy cars untenable. It’s to be hoped that our living areas will be built for more active modes much like it was when we grew up in the thirties and forties.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1719976
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    On a similar note I notice in our areas where there is a “double yellow line” that they are spacing them to about 18 inches apart which tends to move opposing cars further apart.

    It may be a small thing but it works on the mind’s subconscious.

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1720665
    phun83179
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    phun83179

    I was recently asked in a Poll what I thought was the reason for the high road toll in New Zealand.

    My answer (and it has always been the same) is impatience. I drive at a steady 95 – 100km when it is safe to do so.

    I have a very accurate speedometer, and when doing a steady 100km on the main highway, I get overtaken by vehicles of every description. Trucks, cars towing boats, trailers and caravans (all of whom are limited to 90Km/h).

    I keep a very careful eye in my rear view mirror, and often on a long straight road I will see there is no vehicle following. Then, low and behold, there will appear a vehicle that will quickly catch me up and overtake. This vehicle then disappears within a short time span. My calculation makes it likely the driver was doing in excess of 110 km/h to manage that.

    New Zealand drivers are driving outside their ability, and always have to be up the front, this causes accidents that should never happen.

    Slow down and live!

     

     

     

     

    phun83179

    #1720749
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    You have got that right on the head Phun! Like you I drive at a steady 95kmh and get frustrated at the number of trucks passing and pulling in TOO soon and nearly side swiping me!

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1720760
    don021
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    don021

    phun,I wonder how you can say you have a very accu8rate speedometer, testing that instrument is a tricky business. I compare mine with the occasional roadside illuminated speed sign but I don’t know how accurate those signs are. I did read an article on one of my computer sites that said on new cars, speedometers are set to over read by 4Km. an hour as a safety measure. I am of the same opinion as you, most problems are due to impatience.

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