- #1675710halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4658halcyon April 10, 2018 at 9:24 pm
Come on doogie, there is no problem in aiming high. The current death rate is unacceptable and many of those incidents that lead to deaths could have been avoided by better driving. Please not that I have not used the word accident. Accident by definition intimates a no fault incident whereas most of the incidents are caused by drivers behaviour.
I behave therefore I am.
(Apologies to B F Skinner and Rene Descartes)#1675712don021 April 10, 2018 at 9:32 pm
I would like to think that a zero road death toll was achievable, but I very much doubt it, because humans are in the drivers seat.The road toll would be much lower if all drivers abided by the law, but very few do. So how do we ovwercome that reluctance to follow the law? Make the penalties for infringement much harsher! Drift through a STOP sign, lose your car for a week-end. Drive while using a cell phone, lose your car for a week.Exceed the speed limit, lose your car ON THE SPOT for a time dependant on the speed. It will not take long for drivers to understand the error of their ways and follow the law, making roads a lot safer.#1676047TedE April 14, 2018 at 2:16 pm
There was a recent proposal by a politician that we should lower the speed limits on our roads. Does anyone agree with that proposal?
TedE - Papakura -#1676050halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4658halcyon April 14, 2018 at 3:17 pm
There are certainly some highways where 100kph is too fast. In many instances the limit has already been reduced like through the Dome Valley where the speed limit is 80kph.
But more importantly drivers need to learn to drive at a safe speed for the conditions. Some idiots think they are Stirling Moss driving through the heavy rain at Ardmore.
I behave therefore I am.
(Apologies to B F Skinner and Rene Descartes)#1676133don021 April 15, 2018 at 11:29 am
TedE, I don’t think the speed limits are too high, but they are not adhered to by too many motorists. This became obvious a few months ago when two police cars were parked near a T junction known as the worst intersection in town.One car facing in each direction, I guess with a speed camera ready for use. The difference in traffic flow with drivers watching their speed closely was quite remarkable. It showed to me that MOST drivers using the main road of this T junction are NOT law abiding.#1676220TedE April 16, 2018 at 12:36 pm
The streets around our homes really need to have a lower speed limit (unless we live on a main thoroughfare). Speed limits are just that, maximum but still the opportunity to drive to the conditions and your capabilities.
The streets that are connecting destinations should remain at 50kph
The rural roads need to be limited to 80kph
The state highways limited to 80kph
and those motorways with divided highways and barriers between opposing traffic 100kph
The journey time and stress levels are not comparable to those of our highway conditions.
I remember that my first car (36 Morris 8) was good up to 35mph but over 36mph that it was too fast for everything, wheels engine the lot. Travelled a lot between Wanganui and Auckland (12 hour trip) at that time in it and it the speed suited the roads and all, kids slept well int he back seat with tin trunk on the back for a boot.
Then the boss got a Morris Minor van and it had much more get up and go but still 30mph was more than enough around town. I also drove a 54 or thereabouts(V8 Ford Pilot for work and the front transverse axle meant it rolled a lot) and driving on country roads was a real dog especially for those riding on the back. Great for catching possums though (that’s another story).
We were accustomed to the speed and drove according to the conditions so that we had a greater tendency to arrive safely at our destination.
TedE - Papakura -#1676222don021 April 16, 2018 at 12:44 pm
Nice bit of motoring history TedE, just as well we have advanced and modernised.#1676293TedE April 16, 2018 at 11:37 pm
History: learned to drive on a 1928 chev with the cab cut to make the back into a flat tray. The same motors were used on the stationary presses of the time. ‘they had weak or soft starter ring so teeth were often missing and thry were cranked to start for the most part. Batteries were still hard to get and expensive until well into the 50’s so we conserved them as much as possible and with the magneto’s and manual advance/retard you could often manage to start them with the switch by having the prime right.
Commer trucks were used by the builder i served my time with and we used to do quite a mileage hauling river shingle for concrete foundation material early starts before the working day started.
The boss bought a new 52 De Soto and ti was a a real pleasure to ride in. The first time I drove it I didn’t realise how powerful it was and the take off included wheel spin which did not impress the boss.
The most frightening experience was in a 26 bedford truck with load of hay and was in the process of changing down for a steep descent when the gear lever came out of the box in the neutral phase of the change. Luckily it dropped back into the box ok and the change was completed before it picked p too much speed but it was real thrill. Change of underpants was required.
A more recent thrill was going to inspect a job in the early morning while we had a storm and doing fifty mph a tree fell into the headlight beam. It was a fairly large gum and I wiped out a limbs I went under it. The limb changed the shape of the bonnt roof line n windscreen considerably. When I came to a halt it was apparent that I was lucky to have cleared the tree before the trunk crushed the car.
TedE - Papakura -#1676616TedE April 19, 2018 at 4:13 pm
There are some interesting facts in this article:
3 pedestrian deaths in the last week is a shocking opening paragraph.
1 Are Pedestrians road users?
2 Should they have the right to use the road?
3 Should children be allowed to use the road?
5 Should pedestrians be allowed to walk on the pavement when there are no footpaths?
6 In an urban situation where there are no footpaths should the speed limits still be 50 kph?
TedE - Papakura -#1677096jennifer128355MemberMember since: January 13, 2018
Replies: 370jennifer128355 April 23, 2018 at 8:54 am
Enjoyed your history on your vehicles TedE. Today, passing by my home were a procession of some nostalgia cars etc. but, someone painted a V8 coupe cream! aaaahhhh! Spoilt it altogether. Otherwise the rest of the rehab was perfect, as quite as a mouse. Now, I wonder if it has a/c? lol Take care.
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