- February 14, 2018 at 9:43 am #1667792
mommabear70 No problem for me with Andrew Little. I took part in his selection process and have full confidence in that process.Cheers 😀
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchFebruary 14, 2018 at 11:25 am #1667822
halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Doc, you ask a good question in “And just who leaked Winston Peters superann details eh?” Do you have some information that links that release to Judith Collins? Or are you just stirring?
Unless you can provide some foundation to support the allegation then it is as empty as the allegation that Meteria Turia demise was a hatchet job done by Labour. Remember, the child’s father was the son of a strong Labour supporter, and ex-Labour Auckland mayoralty candidate. who would have known about what support Turia got.
Politics is dirty enough without introducing unsupported allegations. I was hoping we were moving towards a clean and transparent period with the new government.February 14, 2018 at 11:42 am #1667828
halcyon, The coming court case will sort out that issue.You are right I was asking tongue in cheek a hypothetical ? just like I did about Todd Barclay too. I had hoped you were right about moving to a new era with a new government but some posters continue to use unsupported allegations like the “velvet glove approach” of eg Whaleoil Beef Hooked. ( Often C&P) & exacerbate matters in hand..I do however expect robust debate holding any government of the day to account .Cheers 😀 PS So Simon Bridges a frontrunner while Mark Mitchell too contemplates his numbers and Paula Bennett discounts standing for leadership but wants to stay deputy. I think she may be toast.eh?
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchFebruary 14, 2018 at 11:44 am #1667829
lilith7MemberMember since: April 9, 2017
I’m not sure Judith Collins would be a good choice;she has an unfortunate association with W.O. & dirty politics, Oravaida & her tendency towards vindictive revenge – ‘hit back twice as hard’ which is a weakness if allowed free reign. Then too,she’s not really one of the new,younger Nat generation which might be seen as a disadvantage.
Paula Bennett hasn’t so far said what her intentions are – which could mean she’ll have a try for leadership.
Bill English and Paula Bennett were the status quo candidates, as long serving ministers under John Key and with solid support from National’s senior and influential MPs.
Simon Bridges and Jonathan Coleman tapped into backbench discontent about a lack of influence within the large and tightly disciplined caucus and Mr Bridges in particular presented himself as the ‘new generation’ candidate.
In that contest National was in government and the caucus swung in behind Mr English.
However the game has radically changed, and so will the views and priorities of the MPs as they look to choose a leader who can take them beyond 2020.”February 14, 2018 at 1:12 pm #1667846
They may also select an interim leader as The Coalition Government could cement in a second term in office but I see Amy Adams is to make an announcement @3pm. She is a Cantabrian now in the safe seat of Selwyn.Getting interesting eh?
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchFebruary 14, 2018 at 2:27 pm #1667878
halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
I doubt that who ever National select to replace Bill will not become the next National PM. The likelihood of the Coalition Government getting a second term is high. Whoever leads National into the 2020 election and loses will be replaced.
There are some talented young people waiting in the wings. Some were present at the Barbeque at Tauranga. There are some of the old hands who will not want to sit for six years in Opposition.
Bringing a young face in worked for Labour. They have proven that one does not have to be long in Parliament to become PM. National could do the same.
That is why I favour Judith Collins. While she may not be ideal as a PM she will be a good leader in Opposition and expose any weaknesses Ardern has.
February 14, 2018 at 2:45 pm #1667885
- This reply was modified 4 days, 1 hour ago by halcyon.
I re-iterate Judith Collins has a lot of baggage of her own. If she is the best option Bring It On! 😀
Peoples Republic Of ChristchurchFebruary 14, 2018 at 3:27 pm #1667897
doogieMemberMember since: March 27, 2006
Judith Collins is much to clever for left Dr L
February 14, 2018 at 4:26 pm #1667901
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Doogie, Judith Collins may have already been too clever for her own good. Amy Adams announced her leadership bid flanked by other National MPs the first bidder to do so.She will have less baggage perhaps than Judith. Interesting times.!PS But will she have the numbers And I don,think Amy has WhaleoilBeefhooked as her close friend either Cheers
Peoples Republic Of Christchurch
February 14, 2018 at 10:58 pm #1667960
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sir-nigel-gresleyMemberMember since: January 10, 2017
If the Nats had looked after The Maori Party instead of wanting whole hog, they could have formed their own coalition and be in Government. 😐
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