- #1733464TedEMemberMember since: May 6, 2006
Replies: 2274TedE September 30, 2019 at 9:47 pm
That’s what we have law enforcement for and that’s the way to deal with any problem groups. We don’t need more aggression.
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#1733473kaiapoiken October 1, 2019 at 10:25 am
- This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by TedE.
TedE, very sensible posts, Thanks. Indeed we do not more aggression. Unfortunately I can see the day when our Law Enforcement agencies are going to need to be armed full time, as they are in many countries now, due to the lawless elements in our communities. Increasing the penalties may not work either due to the fact that many of the lawless treat prisons as training schools for their unlawful activities and if they are fined very seldom bother paying.#1733541gbly86290MemberMember since: December 17, 2014
Replies: 44gbly86290 October 1, 2019 at 9:20 pm
Agree with kaiapoiken, which begs the quetion, was the haste to ban so-called assault rifles wise. I think not. While the criminal element resident in society always seem to have access to fire arms, would it not be wiser to allow the law abiding element the same legal access, but the way things are seemingly headed the only people with laccess to firearme will be Govt. agencies, and criminals, and who can tell them apart? Not a very pleasant senairio. Most dictatorships start off the same way, a dis-armed population are always easy to dictate to.#1733596kaiapoiken October 2, 2019 at 3:03 pm
The arguement that only Law Enforcement agencies and criminals being the only ones with access to firearms leads to Dictatorship is the well used arguement of people like the NRA and their ilk and does not stand up to too close scrutiny as firearms are carried by Police in many countries that do not have any resemblence to “Dictatorships”. And, to ask who can tell the difference between Govt. Agencies and criminal would appear IMHO, to show the link with NRA and their self-serving agenda.
I do not profess to having the answer to the problem of criminal access to weapons but I would venture to say that the fewer high powered weapons around the better. The business of a 13y.o. writing to the Prime Minister because she would not be able to pursue her “sport” without a high-powered military style rifle beggars belief and, on the surface, smacks of a copycat situation cashing in on the youngster involved in Climate Change.#1733601arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10817arandar October 2, 2019 at 3:37 pm
As it turned out the girl’s father owns Gun City.
While I defend her right to her opinion and applaud her having the confidence to express her opinion to our Prime Minister, and I applaud our PM having the political nous to respond fairly and firmly, I did wonder why the father then decided to make it public and expose his daughter to the inevitable pile on.
Now of course it is obvious.
And once again we should ask why our useless media didn’t ask a few searching questions about it before deciding to go all out promoting ‘this young girl’s’ pro-gun POV.
Arandar#1733607kaiapoiken October 2, 2019 at 5:56 pm
Oh Arandar, have I got it wrong. I know about the owner of Gun City, David Tipples daughter. She shot in the Olympics or World Champs of some sort. Isn’t she about 16yo? The one I was referring to is only 13yo and, from the TV bit I saw, her father was on and he wasn’t David Tipple. Well at least I don’t think he was. My point was that wasn’t it curious how she suddenly cropped up just after the Swedish youngster was on about Climate Change.#1733644arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10817arandar October 2, 2019 at 9:14 pm
No I don’t think you got it wrong. I did. I got the two young women confused. My bad. Sorry Ken.
Arandar#1733780don021MemberMember since: May 15, 2012
Replies: 1821don021 October 3, 2019 at 12:19 pm
I cannot understand why people want to own and shoot automatic weapons, I have been a shooter all my life, from a youngster with a BB gun, to a serviceman with access to all types of weapons. I have been in cup winning teams of rifle shooters from all services and it is the skill attained in these competitions that was the joy of the sport. I never found any such joy in firing off many rounds in random automatic shooting. There is no skill there and surely skill is what should be aimed for in any sport. Automatic weapons are solely for the military.#1733864kiwidonMemberMember since: November 25, 2010
Replies: 1kiwidon October 4, 2019 at 10:01 am
Hunters have never ever been permitted automatic firearms!
Only Police approved collectors are permitted to own automatic firearms and they are NOT permitted to fire them.
#1733868kaiapoiken October 4, 2019 at 12:22 pm
- This reply was modified 2 months ago by kiwidon. Reason: more info
I think there is some confusion about the difference between Automatic Weapons and Semi Automatic Weapons. Weapons that the legislation is aimed at is Semi-Automatic Weapons primarily and AK47s and their ilk are classed as Semi-Automatic by virtue of the number of rounds they can fire without the need to re-cock. Have I got that right?
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