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How Many firearms are needed in NZ?

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    Hero42
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    Hero42

    On the plus side:
    Cabinet, including the Green Party, decided in principle on reforms on Monday, with the National Party saying it supports change.

    Fish and Game said it supported a ban on military-style semi-automatic weapons.

    On the negative side:
    The Council of Licenced Firearms Owners said there was already a stringent vetting process for firearm licences in this country and military-style semi-automatic weapons should not be banned.

    Personally I don’t agree that thew vetting process is stringent enough given what has happened given that more than 99% of people who apply for a firearms licence in New Zealand are successful, according to police data.

    There is currently no register of all guns and who owns them, making it impossible to see if someone is building up a cache of arms.

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    don021
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    don021

    I agree with you Hero42 that the vetting process is not sufficient to prevent military arms getting into the wrong hands, years ago all arms were registered and this must be re-instated so in the case of wrongful use the owner of a firearm can be immediately traced. When the change was made years ago the work entailed was enormous, now technology has made the recording possible.

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    arandar
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    arandar

    All firearms must be individually registered to the individual owners and any change of ownership must be formally entered.

    Back in the days of paperwork and paperwars, and so many damn guns, that became an onerous and expensive task and was dropped for that reason.

    That is no longer the case and a few people, civilians or non-sworn officers, could be employed to keep the registrations current and correct.

    I also like the suggestion that firearms licences could be graduated; learner, restricted and full in exactly the same way as driving licences are.

    I stick to the idea no non-citizen or non PR should be able to purchase a firearm in this country.

    Arandar

    #1715040
    lilith7
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    lilith7

    I think Judith Collins deserves some credit for her stance on this,albeit recent & also her support to the PM for wearing a headscarf. She didn’t have to comment on either issue but did so anyway.

    I’m by no means a fan of hers so slightly worrying to agree with her twice in one week, but good for her.

    #1715041
    huiatahi
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    huiatahi

    I possibly have a supicious mind but do you think Judith can see the love Jacinda is getting (and well deserved) and trying to get a little for herself?

    huiatahi

    #1715042
    gabyone
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    gabyone

    I have been heartened to see cross party agreement over gun laws and just wish we could see  more of this. Should be possible, but often seems they all spend more time fighting than looking at what would benefit the country as a whole.

    Gabyone Auckland region

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    TedE
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    TedE

    I wonder if any others made submissions on the bill asking for handguns to be added to the list of prohibited weapons?
    i cannot find a lnk to the bill or details as to whether they have been included?

    TedE - Papakura -

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    gbly86290
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    gbly86290

    Actually that’s quite a high number of imported firearms, but now equate that to the number of people living in NZ and devide by the number of illegal firearm incidents per year, and the answer is exceeding few. The amount of chatter generated by the “CHC Incident” failed to take into account that it was a random shooting by a sadly demented Ussie !!?? But the outpouring of misplaced grief also failed to balance to number of dead christians due to murderous Muslims worldwide, this year and every year. But not a word in the “media” or by our Prime Minister? Knows a publicity opportunity when she sees one I guess. Are we going to ban kitchen knives also? Used in countless domestic violence incidents each year, but know, the unthinking latch onto the number slain, not to who and why! Time for a calm and balanced approach to these problems, but are we going see one? Answer is a definite NO !

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    TedE
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    TedE

    There seems to be a concerted effort to undermine the surrender of MSA weapons.
    I feel that the offer is more than fair to the gun owners and that it would be more than fair to reduce the offer by 25%.
    As soon as you walked out of the store with the weapon it’s value decreased by at least 25% (unless you were going to sell it to an unlicensed person). Once it had been fired it was worth even less. So I think that the taxpayer is being more than generous on the basis that we don’t want these weapons in the community.

    TedE - Papakura -

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    gbly86290
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    gbly86290

    And what particular skills does Pete Breidahl possess to enable him to decide who would be a suitable gun owner? Have any members of the Milton Gun Club been in trouble with the Police due their ownership of a gun? Not according to the Police, so history would indicate Pete is another know-it-all blowhard know nothing. There has seldom, outside of gang activities, been any problems with legitimate gun owners, so why all the hysteria over gun ownership? A politician making personal milage from the illegal actions of a mad Ozzie! And pollies are masters at making the most from any tragedy. And an aside from all the angst over the CHC incident, has anybody thought of the thousands of Christians and others murdered by Muslims all over the world? Wherever muslims go, death follows, usually perpetrated by muslims! Karma anyone? 😯

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