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How Many firearms are needed in NZ?

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  • #1714403
    TedE
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    TedE

    A recent Newspaper report mentioned that we had imported over 50,000 firearms in the past year which was only a slight increase on the previous year. we have averaged over 50,000 new firearms each of the past 5 years. Do we need any more?

    What are your thoughts on this subject?

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1714452
    lilith7
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    lilith7

    I’m far from being an expert,but it seems clear that we may need to change the laws if there’s such a large number of guns arriving here.

    There aren’t that many hunters who all need multiple guns,surely.

    #1714458
    paulinem
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    paulinem

    I dont see that hunters of game need automatic guns to shoot with ( this is what the terrorist purchased in December 2017 )and used in Christchurch to kill so many.

    #1714460
    TedE
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    TedE

    I’ve at last found the article I referred to:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11526693

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1714461
    TedE
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    TedE

    As a hunter I think that an automatic weapon would be a positive disadvantage.

    Also the automatic weapons are not legal in NZ.

    Military Style Semi Automatic weapons are. these are readily modified to return them to the automatic state.

    There is a requirement to hold a special license to own an MSSA.

    However if you look at any gun store advertising I think even Rambo would be surprised at what is available in NZ. It would seem to me that the private gun/firearm owners may better equipped than our Defence force.

    TedE - Papakura -

    #1714467
    arandar
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    arandar

    As a one time farmer and firearms license holder, all I ever needed was a .22 for pest eradication and a 303 for humane slaughter of large animals (cattle and horses). We also had a shotgun for duck hunting though, as we discovered, we hated duck hunting and it was never used after the first time.

    I think our firearms laws must be further tightened. I think individual firearms owners should be licensed and all their individual firearms registered.

    I think anyone who doesn’t live on the land and make their living on the land should keep their firearms in a central armoury perhaps at a gun club and should have to sign their firearms out and back in. Farmers, bushmen and pest control officers must comply with the law as it is currently and keep their firearms and ammo under safe separate lock and key. And no one should be able to sell, trade or gift firearms to anyone else except a licensed dealer.

    I firmly believe only the military and the police should have access to military-style weapons – they’re designed and purposed to kill human beings not food – they don’t belong in the hands of the public and I don’t give a damn about anyone’s gun collections and big gun fetishes.

    We should immediately have another amnesty then we should root out and confiscate all firearms in the hands of unlicensed owners. We should double or treble the numbers of firearms officers and have a central register of all firearms licensees.

    Arandar

    #1714474
    paulinem
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    paulinem

    Ted apparently the Terrorist did have a special license  to buy his MSSA in December 2017′

    Which puts two questions in mind! He is now 27yrs re court announcement this morning  in 2017 he would have been 25yrs … How did a 25yr old  get  a license to buy a MSSA?

    Also how come an Australian visiting this country was able to get a New Zealand gun license at 25yrs?

     

     

     

     

    #1714487
    TedE
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    TedE

    Estimated 1.5million firearms in NZ. 33.6 per hundred of our population. 16.6% of homes have one or more firearms. There are only 239,700 registered firearm owners.

    I wonder how we can get it back under control?

    I propose each firearm should be registered to an individual owner (the way it was when I first bought a rifle) which was dispensed with in the 60’s I think it was.
    We need to make owning fire arms a chore like annually relicensing our cars.
    That MSSA weapons should only be held by police or defence forces.
    That no automatic weapons be in private ownership.
    All handguns be prohibited.
    Ammunition sales need to be under tighter control as well.

    https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/new-zealand

    http://visionofhumanity.org/app/uploads/2018/06/Global-Peace-Index-2018-Snapshot.pdf

    TedE - Papakura -

    • This reply was modified 8 months, 4 weeks ago by  TedE.
    #1714495
    paulinem
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    paulinem

    Ted I agree with your sentiment and suggestions  re controlling guns etc. But as Jacinta correctly this was okay back ?? when gun laws were first introduced. But today  she said we have online sales, which is virtually impossible to control and manage by the police.

    #1714496
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

    Seems it was just a matter of time.

    There a shocker post at Whaleoil. There’s a lot of bad  language but it seems from a previous post many members are to some extent ok with it. Just be warned.

    Gun club under fire *NSFW

     

     

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