- #1723339Hero42 June 24, 2019 at 1:25 pm
Sounds like someone not taking a measured approach and just posting a scary article with little or no facts.
Care to share the article so we can check the accuracy of what they are saying?
Cheers 🙂#1723644Hero42 June 27, 2019 at 2:08 pm
Europe is suffering under another heat wave this year.
“An increase in heatwaves is one of the clearest impacts of climate change,” said Hannah Cloke, a professor at Britain’s University of Reading.
“Killer heat events of this kind will become even more widespread by the middle of the century in Europe, but this outlook could get worse unless action is taken to curb future greenhouse gas emissions.”#1724239Hero42 July 4, 2019 at 1:08 pm#1724309halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4948halcyon July 5, 2019 at 10:59 am
Very good article on Grownups website by Baz Walker in respect of Climate Change.
As he rightly identifies, “the protests to date are long on rhetoric but relatively short on the actions wanted.” This point is born out by the tenor of this thread. Much has been claimed by the advocates of the topic, albeit some based on minimal evidence, in support of the topic. But there has been little comment about what we, as individuals, are prepared to do to ameliorate the effects of climate change.
Therefore, may be those who support the notion of climate change can inform us what lifestyle changes they have made, or are willing to make, so as to “save the planet“.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” (George Orwell, The Animal Farm)#1724320Hero42 July 5, 2019 at 3:57 pm
This is what am I doing to combat climate change.
Downsized my car to use less petrol
Next car will be electric.
Driving less Ks.
Using electric train to get into Wellington
Walking were possible, Wellington is very compact
I fly less and when I do I pay for a tree to be planted to offset the CO2
Eating less meat
Grow some of my own food
Double glazed and insulted the house to reduce heating costs.
Switched to electric heating and cooling from a generator using renewal sources
Installed some solar panels.
Considering upgrading to full solar power
Use the cold wash cycle
Air dry washing in the sun
Buy energy efficient appliances
Installed all LED lighting
Unplug appliances when not needed.
Only replace appliances when they need replacing not just when a new model comes out.
Run a worm farm
Compost and reuse garden waste
Plant trees and shrubs to capture nitrogen runoff in the Wellington region.
Cheers 🙂#1724321Hero42 July 5, 2019 at 3:58 pm
And of course informing all those still in denial or uncertain of the facts so that they may yet decide to part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
I would rather have their grandchildren thank them than blame and hate them when the world they have to live in is ruined.
Cheers 🙂#1724383BryanMemberMember since: October 28, 2006
Replies: 12479Bryan July 6, 2019 at 10:02 am
What am I doing to combat climate change ❓ ❓
Not a lot I suppose when one stands back and analyses things I suppose BUT at least we do try and every bit helps!
oh yes and by the way it makes me feel good to be able to say I do my bit! 😆
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#1724490halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
- This reply was modified 4 months, 1 week ago by Bryan.
Replies: 4948halcyon July 8, 2019 at 11:38 am
A good start Hero for someone that supports the notion of climate change. But is it enough. I do most of that but for other reasons. Mainly because of the way I was bought up.
And you are fortunate to have access to public transport. If I was to travel to Auckland for a day using public transport, it would be a three day trip. The transport to my main hub, Whangarei, does not align with the transport south. Hopefully Shane ones will see the value in subsidising transport coming down the West coast and via Kaikohe.
It is a big step from having “some solar panels” to relying on solar energy totally. The only way we could manage was to use gas for hot water and cooking. And our wise ‘Captain’ has pulled the plug on having an ongoing supply of gas.
And I would question your commitment to your conviction if you are still willing to use air travel. Even though I have family overseas I have decided not to fly again, unless of cause it is a medivac emergency given our base hospital is an hour away by road.
I think Bryan is very honest when he says “it makes me feel good to be able to say I do my bit!”
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” (George Orwell, The Animal Farm)#1724494phun83179MemberMember since: November 19, 2013
Replies: 31phun83179 July 8, 2019 at 1:09 pm
<p>I see a number of Councils in New Zealand have declared a “Climate Emergency”. There is no Climate Emergency, only “Climate Change” which has been happening the entire life of the planet.</p><p>We can reduce our individual “load” on the planet very easily! But how many people are prepared to make the change?</p><p>Start with your vehicle. Do you really need it for the (mostly short) journey you are about to make?</p><p>If you are going to your local dairy for a paper, some bread or to buy a newspaper, do you really need to drive? Walk to the dairy, the exercise will be good for you. In my case, I am spending the same for fuel for the car annually as I did 12 years ago when I first bought the vehicle! How did I manage that? Simple, I leave the car at home and walk to town (10 mins) and only use the car if there are lots groceries to collect or if it is very wet and the trip is essential. Last month we used the car 18 out of 30 days, so far this month 2 out of eight days.</p><p>Do you really need to buy a new car? Our vehicle is 20 years old. I am only the third owner (the previous owners looked after it etc) and I do the same. It still does the same economical mpg as it did when I bought it, and I maintain in it top condition at all times.</p><p>Do you need that new home appliance? I have had only three refrigerator/freezers in 50 years. Also three washing machines in that time. A good iron will last 10-15 years, so will a toaster. Modern stoves, either gas or electric would last 15 years if looked after.</p><p>I have had 5 cars in the same period. All were good secondhand models when bought, and lasted because they were well-maintained.</p><p>De-clutter your house! We (admittedly) are minimalists. What we save on buying “things” we spend on travel. We use a lot of public transport, so are not driving around wasting fuel with just two in the car. We sold off a lot of odds and ends (or clutter) and gave away what didn’t sell to the op-shops to be re-purposed by someone else.</p><p>We recycle (have been since the 1950’s) there’s nothing new about that, so we are saving ourselves money and not the planets resources. If we all tried a bit harder, collectively we could all help.</p><p>Are you doing any of these things? If not consider if you could try a few of these ideas and also develop your own.</p><p>Good luck with your endeavours!</p><p><br data-mce-bogus=”1″></p>
Replies: 2017Anonymous July 8, 2019 at 8:54 pm
“This is what am I doing to combat climate change.”
Downsized my car to use less petrol – did you get your previous car crushed or sell it to someone who will use more petrol?
Next car will be electric – what exactly does that achieve given that burning/using fossil fuels (what school children throughout the world went on strike over) is necessary in the manufacture of all the components of an electric car?
Driving less Ks – tick. Less wear on the roads the CoL aren’t maintaining.
Using electric train to get into Wellington – hmm, definition of electric train please?
I’m picturing most if not all trains in New Zealand requires the burning/using of fossil fuels in the manufacture of all the components.
I must admit with the all clever technology around it’s entirely possible a train’s been invented along the lines of electric cars but I imagine the batteries for electric trains will need to be quite a lot bigger and with massive capacity. Hard to believe passengers would be deliriously happy sitting at a station for an hour or two waiting for the batteries to be recharged.
Or by using the electric train to get into Wellington, you really mean travelling in a conventional metal train powered by electricity. Of course you’ll be aware that some of our electricity is made from coal and natural gas and all our electricity requires quite a lot of oil in the manufacturing of the components to get the juice to the wires that connect to the motors in the train.
Walking were possible, Wellington is very compact – really?
compact definition: consisting of parts that are positioned together closely or in a tidy way, using very little space.
No need for cars, buses, cycles or trains at all then.
Are there any hilly bits in Wellington?
I fly less and when I do I pay for a tree to be planted to offset the CO2 – how many years before that single tree offsets any CO2? Do you attend the tree planting ceremony?
Eating less meat – what exactly does that achieve?
Eating organic – sounds good..but..
Grow some of my own food – ..that sounds good too, but when you need to irrigate the plants, you really should be storing rain water. Remember, your grandchildren would be horrified to hear you have a plastic or corrugated iron tank and use a plastic garden hose.
Double glazed – ditto my comments for ‘Next car will be electric’ above.
insulated the house – which non-fossil fuel based product did you use?
Switched to electric heating and cooling from a generator using renewal sources – you’d be better off keeping the woodburner for heating rather than getting a generator made out of more fossil fuels.
But I do admire you for your resourcefulness. Did you get help in making your own wooden windmill?
Installed some solar panels – made out of plastic and metals naturally.
Considering upgrading to full solar power – bravo, even more plastic and metal.
Use the cold wash cycle – bravo again but rather you than me. I prefer at least warm baths or showers and I much prefer a washing machine to the washboard my grandmother used.
Air dry washing in the sun – and when the sun’s not shining bright, you wait for the day when it is.
Buy energy efficient appliances – no way – the grandchildren would not approve of you buy anything made out of fossil fuels.
Installed all LED lighting – not sure the Greens and your grandchildren will be elated with people mining for the components needed to manufacture LEDs.
Unplug appliances when not needed – busy busy busy. Wear the sockets out instead maybe.
Only replace appliances when they need replacing not just when a new model comes out – except for electric cars eh?
Recycle – ah, you make stuff out of spaghetti tins?
Run a worm farm – not so sure that’s a good idea. While they improve soil fertility, that causes in a net increase in greenhouse gases.
Compost and reuse garden waste – what’s your compost bin made out of?
Plant trees and shrubs to capture nitrogen runoff in the Wellington region – tick, but you must have a massive estate. You did say at the beginning of your post “This is what am I doing to combat climate change.”
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