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    Profile photo of halcyonhalcyon
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    halcyon

    If we are really tolerant then surely we should be tolerant of those who question our tolerance. It is only by exploring why we are tolerant that we can become tolerant.

    During my first year at Uni there came a speaker who was described as “a radical Maori sh** stirrer. Many people complained about his being given the opportunity to speak. I went along out of interest (and because I had nothing on at the time). I learned more about te Tiriti during his presentation than I learned over the years.

    When I enrolled I decided to include te reo  in my study because I could see how that would increase my chances of future employment in my chosen field. After listening to him I became a aware that I was appropriating a treasure of Maori for my own benefit. And by so doing I was behaving no different to those who confiscate Maori land for their own benefit.

    Without having the opportunity to be challenged my belief would not have been changed.

    #1686897
    Profile photo of gabyonegabyone
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    gabyone

    Well Halcyon that was an unfortunate experience for you but hopefully you do not judge the whole Maori race by one  person & their poor  behaviour.

    Myself, as a person with no Maori ancestry, I have had a lovely welcoming experience from my Maori friends & associates.  I have a firm belief that one should treat all mankind as an equal unless that person treats me with hostility.

    Gabyone Auckland region

    #1686905
    Profile photo of halcyonhalcyon
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    halcyon

    Sorry gabeone, but I do not understand your comment about it being ” an unfortunate experience” . Maybe I was unclear in my comment, but it was a very enlightening experience and one that challenged my perception. After all, being bought up in a “white supremist” household I was struggling between what I had been told as a child and my observations as an adult. The experience led me to reject the childhood messages.

    The other point I was trying to make was that had I listened to the biased comments of others and not decided to listen to what the guy was actually saying I would not have had my attitudes challenged and continued, like a lot of people, to rely on myths.

    I believe we need to be exposed to other points of view to grow and develop our understanding. Whether we agree with what is said or not does not matter.

     

    #1686908
    Profile photo of gabyonegabyone
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    gabyone

    Apologies Halycon. I misread what you were saying. I agree being challenged can enlighten us but I do not believe that if the challenge is offensive that we should tolerate it,  It is our right to reject  anyone attempting  to force us to listen to  anything we find repulsive.

     

    Gabyone Auckland region

    #1686948
    Profile photo of freemindfreemind
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    freemind

    Have you mugs not noticed the underlying racism on this News hub on TV3 with their morning show while touring the country.
    Not one hard working Chinese or Asian interviewed

    The only ones interviewed were a Few Europeans and the usual unemployed who just turn up for free sausages.
    Not one Dairy owner visited .
    Mind you if a dairy owner did turn up and was seen on TV there was every chance his Dairy would have been a target
    Or then Dairy owners are not allowed to express their opinions as it may upset a certain section of the community

    #1686994
    Profile photo of gabyonegabyone
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    gabyone

    This person, not a mug, thinks you are just looking to stir strife Freemind.

    Gabyone Auckland region

    #1687014
    Profile photo of bruce139151bruce139151
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    bruce139151

    Freemind.  You use insulting terminology in referring to others as “mugs” So as right of reply I’d say you are the biggest one of the lot.

    #1687023
    Profile photo of freemindfreemind
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    freemind

    Oh dear, Another of the easily insulted.

    Would you not call criminals Monkeys or would you rather call them nice little pussycats
    The Criminal gang section of our community get more media attention than the hard working corner dairy workers.
    There are always excuses made the Criminals and that why society is floundering

    #1687025
    Profile photo of supergoldsupergold
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    supergold

    Oh dear, Another of the easily insulted.

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    #1687038
    Profile photo of huiatahihuiatahi
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    huiatahi

    Why not just call them criminals?  Please don’t insult monkeys and pussy cats.  Oh, I forgot…. you cant speak plain English, you always seem to have to try and throw in some adjective to make your post insulting

    huiatahi

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