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Failure of private property based capitalism ?

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  • #1702578
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    I have told you there was no crime in “corporatizing” electricity assets management,

    Yes you did tell me that and I totally ignored it because I am aware you haven’t got a clue about legalities. Doesn’t stop you from wind bagging though. You must be silly to imagine your half baked opinion will move my studied resolve jens are you into the plonk and the weed?

    The Law is the Law jens

    Again I am not suggesting nationalizing any thing jens simply because that implies trusting the government to manage our property when I KNOW the government cannot be trusted and they have supplied ample evidence.

    Did I need to repeat that several times jens? or do you think for once you could pull your head out of that important little place you sit on that restricts your vision or ability to understand that my perspective differs from yours because I do not support the criminal activities you have constantly supported and I never brown nosed rdouglas

    So relax in peace, critic – you might get it yet your way when you achieve clear democratic majority support for it.

    What a lot of nonsense jens if there was a few hundred kiwi’s with enough of an IQ to understand their claim of right so as to help themselves… the numbers would soon grow not that they need to be bothered by folk like yourself that actually want to pay to use stolen property at a price which is more than twice what it costs to produce and maintain.
    A “fool and his money are easily parted” applies so if the majority are fools and you want to call that democracy go right ahead … I can hear my Australian great grandchildren laughing from here.

    I know you want to repeat your understanding of capatalism jens but this thread is titled “Failure of private property based capitalism”

    as such
    I don’t mind repeating this jens because I know most conversations go in one ear and out the other with you so…

    The repossession of stolen property (electricity)- is

    really easy under “claim of right”.
    First turn off the power at the mains switch then bridge or join the two

    heavy red wires running into the meter part…

    repossession methodology

    #1702595
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    jens

    Apart from critic  –  is there  anyone else who is not interested in universal saving and investment based property ownership by and for all as as the  vision for  a  more  constructively egalitarian world  than  what we  have  now ?

    #1702606
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    Jens most of us speak english and can read the title to this thread.
    Some are probably aware of your wanting to change the subject because you are uncomfortable with being confronted by the peaceful solution to criminal activities you embraced .
    Others probably don’t want to discuss anything with somebody that pretends a knowledge of all things including the laws when it is abundantly clear that you only know sweet fanny adams very well.

    Have you considered starting another thread?
    You could title it spinning the little red hen above your head? or perhaps spinning the truth so that folk save money for others to take advantage of because they do, or all things spinney…. your call 🙂

    #1702634
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    critic  – yes, all participating  grownups can  speak and  write in  English, but  you either on purpose or ignorantly  alter  the meaning of  this  thread’s caption  by omitting  the  question mark (?) .

    Is  that not a  universal truth  about the meaning of the question mark, or is it  just another  alien “know all” from a Russian(?)  background ?

    And normally, is not the  chance of others  taking  advantage  of  public money  much  greater than  when it is  owned by individuals and  registered  corporations ?

    Anyhow –  thanks  for the   sweet  story of the red hen  getting    the  un-cooperative  ducks etc. to  co-operate in  producing the  loaf of bread – do you or  don’t  you agree  with it ?

    But  what is your understanding about getting that  loaf produced  through  co-operation by all –

    did it also  include  co-operation in  procuring  the  seed for  all the  planting, harvesting  etc., etc..  – or  was  that left only  for the  red  hen to provide ?

     

     

    #1702654
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    Ha ha ha.. jens ask all those questions about “the little red hen” of kids that go to kindy or are just learning to read 🙂 🙂

    As for the question mark on the title…. follow my advice and there will be no question about it…

    The repossession of stolen property (electricity)- is

    really easy under “claim of right”.
    First turn off the power at the mains switch then bridge or join the two

    heavy red wires running into the meter part…

    repossession methodology

    #1702673
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    There you are critic – evading  again the  subject matter.

    And your  advice  for me  to  start a new thread because  I don’t  know  enough  about  legalities in NZ  is  ridiculous, because firstly it is not  me  who is  concerned about NZ legalities  but  you,  and  secondly –  regardless  of  legalities, the physically  demonstrable truth  regardless of any  cheating, theft and  even  Social Credit  or  Marxist/Communist theories and legalities –

    saving and profitable investment  at the  expense  of hand-to-mouth consumption potential is  the  only  way for  humans  to create wealth existence  for  overcoming  poverty  –  TINA !!!

    There  would not even  be  a chance   for you  to steal  electricity, critic,  if the  people and stewards of  some  generations ago  had not  organized the  saving and investment  or  capitalism – necessary  to  build  the  electric power  stations.

    Despite all the  thefts and evils you identify  with our true or imagined illegalities in NZ,  private property based  capitalism  and resultant prosperity is  flourishing for the  substantial majority  of us –

    but  because there  are  many  unsatisfied with not  sharing in  the  full  benefits of  wealth ownership, this  thread wishes  to  clarify  how participation in the  benefits of wealth ownership  can  be  fairly  and effectively  extended to all  by organizing their  participation  in the  wealth ownership  creative  process.

    This proposition  would  still  stand even if  the electricity assets  had not been corporatized, and you  would not have your  “justification” for  tapping illegally  into  electricity  delivery.

    While you may think you  can  build a backyard power  station  without  capital – (it can be shown you  still  have to  sacrifice  some  consumption  potential  for that,  even if you  deny it) – even you have to admit that  there  must be some  savings or capital for rewarding  someone else whose services you may need for  building your  power plant.

    So – the  economics of this  thread are clear,  your true or imagined “illegalities” are a  different  subject matter,  irrelevant here,  and belong to  another  discussion  thread.

     

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    it is not me who is concerned about NZ legalities but you,

    We already agreed you have no problems with legalities jens… Supporting criminal activities usually is not an indication of concern. As I am recommending a lawful solution to the criminal activities you supported I have no gripes at this point. 🙂
    I suggested you start a new thread because you were changing the subject to matters that were irrelevant to this thread but I agree it is ridiculous for you to talk about or make statements about legalities if you haven’t got a clue and don’t bother researching.

    private property based capitalism and resultant prosperity is flourishing for the substantial majority of us –

    Yea folk are living in cars and under bridges while the debts being handed on to future generations are unreasonable particularly that there is no Equity to justify such debts …. so a few criminals and their associates can play pyramid style monopoly games with stolen property… it all sounds really intelligent jens really (not so much) 🙂

    So – the economics of this thread are clear,

    Did you manage to do any more research on the little red hen? 🙂

    When very simple Law enforcement can ensure the failure of private property based capitalism resultant from the 1984 criminal capitalist coup we know we are once again moving in a healthy direction so…

    The repossession of stolen property (electricity)- is

    really easy under “claim of right”.
    First turn off the power at the mains switch then bridge or join the two

    heavy red wires running into the meter part…

    repossession methodology

    #1702707
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    jens

    Critic  –  I wrote  down  my comments  on the little red hen story – but you have  evaded  to  reveal yours.

    Do you think the co-operation the  little red hen achieved  from  the initially  uncooperative duckies etc.  in the process  from harvesting the  wheat  to the  production of a loaf of  bread  was a positive  achievement for the  benefit of all, or a  confidence  trick to exploit  the  ducks and  cats, with  cats  actually not eating  much  bread at all?

    And while the little red hen  got them all to work on it, the  story  does not say whether  they all also cooperated in procuring the  seed  grain, or was  that still done  only by the little  red  hen  alone, who made  this whole  production  process  possible ?

    With the second  version  she  would have achieved  participation in private  wealth  ownership creation  based   capitalism by all.

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 3 days ago by Profile photo of jens jens.
    #1702711
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    it all sounds really intelligent jens really (not so much) 🙂

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    So, as I cannot  imagine the little red hen to represent  a billionaire  capitalist,  corporation or  a government in charge,  the  story seems to make  most sense to me only  if she  managed  to get all  the rest to participate  also in the  effort  of  adequate  seed  grain contribution.

    Does that make sense to you, critic?

    If not  – then don’t be too shy   to  let us  know your thoughts about it.  It’s quite legal, I am  convinced  no harm will come to you for that, despite all the  crimes  you can imagine.

     

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