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END of the Road for Petrol Cars ?

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  • #1663547
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    drlivingstone

    Doogie,We are prepared for the day (not just yet) to take advantage of public transport if the doc revokes our licence as we have very good services at our front gate however meantime we appreciate our Suzy.Our Grownups  social group carpool  on many Monday  outings like tomorrow to Kaiapoi where five of us will sally forth.Any transition to a low carbon economy will require every sector of the economy to do as much as possible to reduce greenhouse gas emissions,energy, transport, industry, agriculture waste, urban and rural including a focus on energy efficiency  and renewable energy…….this is a big issue keeping climate change central to government thinking.

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

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    lilith7

    With any new form of transport, there are sure to be teething troubles. In the early days of petrol driven cars,there would have been very few petrol stations compared to numbers now. Changes tend to take place as needed,so that if electric cars continue to gain in popularity we’ll likely see far more charging stations.

     

    Obviously,we have no way of knowing exactly what the future might bring in the way of transport. Another possibility at present is the maglev loop train. It may or may not come to anything,but its perhaps best to wait & see rather than chuck cold water on any new idea as a matter of routine.

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/22/richard-branson-elon-musk-hyperloop-one-pie-in-the-sky

     

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    ast week, Richard Branson gave a boost to tech tycoon Elon Musk’s vision of a futuristic transport system. Hyperloop One is the frontrunner among several companies working on plans for magnetically propelled ground shuttles capable of keeping pace with commercial airliners. Branson announced an investment of an undisclosed sum in the company, which took its total funding to £186m.

    Musk first outlined his plans, entitled Hyperloop Alpha, in 2013, when he said the system could provide a safer, faster and more convenient mode of long-distance transport than cars and trains, while also being low cost, sustainable, immune to adverse weather and earthquake-resistant.

    He went on to describe a system of tubes elevated on columns running the 381 miles between Los Angeles and San Francisco, with journey times cut from a driving time of six hours and 30 minutes to 35 minutes. In Silicon Valley style, he “open-sourced” the project, inviting others to take up its development.

    Earlier this year, at Hyperloop One’s test site in Nevada, they carried out a trial using a full-size pod that reached 190mph, although the company is aiming for top speeds of 600mph-plus for the passenger vehicle.”

     

     

    #1663572
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    doogie

    Dr L

    Don’t ever count on your licence being revoked.

    This is my experience. Two eye specialists told me I should not be driving. After that Specsavers were prepared to issue me with an okay to drive as was my doctor. I used my doctors pass document to get my licence should I need it for emmergancy which is valid until 2020 No specialist was about to revoke it at all.
    I have not been driving for 18 months now and wouldn’t since being on prednisone.Don’t read books or newspapers any more and struggle on here but I’m not about to let you off the hook.

    Mrs doogie sends her regards to you both.

    #1663588
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    don021

    How well I remember the lack of petrol stations in the early days lilith7, we used to drive from the Waikato to Hawkes Bay, not a yard of seal the whole way. After a short stay with family at Mokai we woild set off early to complete the trip, a break at Taupo to buy a case of petrol, two 4 gallon tins, Plume or Big Tree, then off over the terribly corrugated Rangataiki Plains. Not a petrol station an the whole trip. The only thing seen, othere than scrub, was wild cattle, one jumped off a bank and landed over the car bonnet. No serious damage to the old 1926 Morris Cowley.

    #1663724
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    lilith7

    Dono21,that reminded me of when I was a kid & we did a trip from north Canterbury up to Nelson,in a Morris 8. Stopped at Kaikoura to have crayfish lunch & then carried on over miles & miles of winding roads – sealed thankfully,but once past Nelson not so lucky. We used to always carry a tin of petrol just in case a garage had closed since our last trip up that way, & often a thermos of tea,loaf of bread,tomatoes etc etc.

    More miles of winding hill roads,shingle this time & over the mountain down into the valley. It took most of the day back then but the return trip was more eventful on account of the flooding throughout the valley. It was a very close run thing since the water was almost up to the level of the car doors,but we made it & once on the hill again no problem with flooding.

    https://is.gd/i4tsPR

     

    #1664909
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    drlivingstone

    Radio New Zealand report today  of Ministry of Transport spokesperson is that once EVs  reach a certain % in numbers they too will pay Road  User Charges.

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

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    doogie

    That would have to be imposed as is diesel road user charge, pay by milage I would think

    #1664924
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    drlivingstone

    Doogie, Yes that appears to be it. Cheers

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

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    supergold

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    There is some serious chat out there about Electric Cars and plenty of Govts including our own have jumped with both feet on the band wagon thinking these vehicles are going to transform their environmental policies and go a long way to fix the “global warming” and CO2 emissions issues around the world. My opinion is that there are a lot of people who want to believe this but really have not done all the homework to understand the positives and negatives in a truely accurate and properly informed way. Simply putting an electric car on the road does not mean you are instantly saving the planet, it is far more complicated and the attached article that was in this months NZ Classic Driver Magazine does a fantastic job of providing a very good and simple explanation of the environmental costs of the production of an electric vehicle.
    Electricity in NZ is also not in plentiful supply being predominantly Renewable, so have think about what kind of pressure will be put on our Power Grid if thousands more electric cars are put on our roads? Can’t imagine the power companies are going to maintain or reduce the cost of power to users in NZ?? With the efficiency of Combustion Engines only getting better, it is very hard to see how real cars won’t be around for ever. Proper analysis needs to be done by Govt’s and Councils before investing too much into something that they may find out to be making the problem worse than they think.

    ~ Greg Murphy

    https://www.facebook.com/GMurphV8/

     

    Supergold-Wainuiomata (Wellington)

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    #1680546
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    halcyon

    Good article supergold. We have been indoctrinated to believe that electric cars will save the planet. But the science does not support that. We need to continue the use of petrol driven vehicles for the foreseeable future.

    One question that comes to mind, if we were able to convert to electric vehicles by 2020, how would we generate enough electricity to meet our needs. Unfortunately our so called green ‘friends’ are busy telling us to change without providing answers as to how that will happen.

    Back to the post-war blackouts.  🙂

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