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    TedE

    Mary Robinson in her podcast “Mother’s of Invention” is making the case for ceasing to refer to “Climate Change” and instead focusing on “Climate justice”.
    Her case is a good one and is well represented by her and her contributor’s.

    She starts from the premise:

    Those who have the lowest carbon footprint are suffering the greatest affects.
    That those most affected by climate change are those least able to adapt.

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    There is a link in here to the podcast:
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/24/mary-robinson-launches-new-feminist-fight-against-climate-change

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    scientists alarmed at results of study of insects
    Not sure about calling it justice

    #1699469
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    I must try and get a copy of the IPCC report that is mentioned here:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=12144095&fbclid=IwAR1iHqXwtgcgHZsPxPssSBbi4OmIDK8N4jux34nyEgregbIs8QPQMtxBa7M

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    Unfortunately the IPCC report of 2018 seems very light on it’s address re climate justice:
    https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/chapter-1-pdf/
    1.1.2 Eradication of Poverty
    This report assesses the role of poverty and its eradication in the
    context of strengthening the global response to the threat of
    climate change and sustainable development. A wide range of
    definitions for
    poverty
    exist. The AR5 discussed ‘poverty’ in terms
    of its multidimensionality, referring to ‘material circumstances’
    (e.g., needs, patterns of deprivation, or limited resources), as well
    as to economic conditions (e.g., standard of living, inequality, or
    economic position), and/or social relationships (e.g., social class,
    dependency, lack of basic security, exclusion, or lack of entitlement;
    Olsson et al., 2014). The UNDP now uses a Multidimensional Poverty
    Index and estimates that about 1.5 billion people globally live in
    multidimensional poverty, especially in rural areas of South Asia and
    Sub-Saharan Africa, with an additional billion at risk of falling into
    poverty (UNDP, 2016).
    A large and rapidly growing body of knowledge explores the
    connections between climate change and poverty. Climatic
    variability and climate change are widely recognized as factors that
    may exacerbate poverty, particularly in countries and regions where
    poverty levels are high (Leichenko and Silva, 2014). The AR5 noted
    that climate change-driven impacts often act as a threat multiplier
    in that the impacts of climate change compound other drivers of
    poverty (Olsson et al., 2014). Many vulnerable and poor people are
    dependent on activities such as agriculture that are highly susceptible
    to temperature increases and variability in precipitation patterns
    (Shiferaw et al., 2014; Miyan, 2015). Even modest changes in rainfall
    and temperature patterns can push marginalized people into poverty
    as they lack the means to recover from associated impacts. Extreme
    events, such as floods, droughts, and heat waves, especially when
    they occur in series, can significantly erode poor people’s assets and
    further undermine their livelihoods in terms of labour productivity,
    housing, infrastructure and social networks (Olsson et al., 2014).

    1.1.3 Sustainable Development and a 1.5°C
    (next topic)

    The other two chapters don’t deal with how those affected by the problems arising are to be helped and I understand that the “Anglosphere” specifically excluded that from the discussions and report and were adamant that there would be no acceptance of responsibility for any liability. That information came from those attending and representing the Pacific Island nations.

    This is particularly relevant for those who were affected by the nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands.

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    The “Mothers of Invention” poddcast 2019 series has started. The same link works.
    https://www.mothersofinvention.online/

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    Kate Raworths ideas seem to be the ideal if we can achieve that sort of configuration and live within the planetary boundaries is possibly where we need to be.
    However the problem is how to get there!
    If we accepted that as the goal then we are on the way!
    The Paris agreement is an international agreement of what we need to achieve tog et there!
    Implementation of that agreement is needed now!

    There fore Greta Thunberg’s stance to get the politicians to implement policies to achieve those goals is what we must strive for at the same time as reducing our individual footprints.

    https://qz.com/1252122/economist-kate-raworth-gave-the-most-compelling-design-talk-at-ted-about-doughnuts/

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    jens

    Well then TedE –

    it looks like only Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez has  a proposal  for what needs to be  done   to generate the  capital to finance conversion to  fully sustainable non-polluting power generation , which is  –

    reduce  consumption to  the  level that  was needed to keep up  with the  costly war effort.

    If people agree with that  in principle,  there  might be  a good political  chance  yet  for  the  milder, less radical “Third Way”,  with all of  us  systematically participating  in the effort with the  additional bonus that instead of  consuming wealth  as in war, we  would all create  long term wealth  and prosperity for all of us, including  the most unfortunate have-nots, who will become  HAVES !(?).

    Reasoned  skepticism,  questions and  discussion welcome.</p>

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