- #1699364TedE October 17, 2018 at 5:47 pm
Mary Robinson in her podcast “Mother’s of Invention” is making the case for ceasing to refer to “Climate Change” and instead focusing on “Climate justice”.
Her case is a good one and is well represented by her and her contributor’s.
She starts from the premise:
Those who have the lowest carbon footprint are suffering the greatest affects.
That those most affected by climate change are those least able to adapt.
TedE - Papakura -#1699365TedE October 17, 2018 at 5:57 pm
There is a link in here to the podcast:
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Not sure about calling it justice#1699469TedE October 18, 2018 at 5:38 pm
I must try and get a copy of the IPCC report that is mentioned here:
TedE - Papakura -#1708876TedE January 28, 2019 at 2:06 pm
Unfortunately the IPCC report of 2018 seems very light on it’s address re climate justice:
1.1.2 Eradication of Poverty
This report assesses the role of poverty and its eradication in the
context of strengthening the global response to the threat of
climate change and sustainable development. A wide range of
exist. The AR5 discussed ‘poverty’ in terms
of its multidimensionality, referring to ‘material circumstances’
(e.g., needs, patterns of deprivation, or limited resources), as well
as to economic conditions (e.g., standard of living, inequality, or
economic position), and/or social relationships (e.g., social class,
dependency, lack of basic security, exclusion, or lack of entitlement;
Olsson et al., 2014). The UNDP now uses a Multidimensional Poverty
Index and estimates that about 1.5 billion people globally live in
multidimensional poverty, especially in rural areas of South Asia and
Sub-Saharan Africa, with an additional billion at risk of falling into
poverty (UNDP, 2016).
A large and rapidly growing body of knowledge explores the
connections between climate change and poverty. Climatic
variability and climate change are widely recognized as factors that
may exacerbate poverty, particularly in countries and regions where
poverty levels are high (Leichenko and Silva, 2014). The AR5 noted
that climate change-driven impacts often act as a threat multiplier
in that the impacts of climate change compound other drivers of
poverty (Olsson et al., 2014). Many vulnerable and poor people are
dependent on activities such as agriculture that are highly susceptible
to temperature increases and variability in precipitation patterns
(Shiferaw et al., 2014; Miyan, 2015). Even modest changes in rainfall
and temperature patterns can push marginalized people into poverty
as they lack the means to recover from associated impacts. Extreme
events, such as floods, droughts, and heat waves, especially when
they occur in series, can significantly erode poor people’s assets and
further undermine their livelihoods in terms of labour productivity,
housing, infrastructure and social networks (Olsson et al., 2014).
1.1.3 Sustainable Development and a 1.5°C
The other two chapters don’t deal with how those affected by the problems arising are to be helped and I understand that the “Anglosphere” specifically excluded that from the discussions and report and were adamant that there would be no acceptance of responsibility for any liability. That information came from those attending and representing the Pacific Island nations.
This is particularly relevant for those who were affected by the nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands.
TedE - Papakura -#1714682TedE March 20, 2019 at 8:47 am
The “Mothers of Invention” poddcast 2019 series has started. The same link works.
TedE - Papakura -#1716275TedE April 9, 2019 at 2:41 pm
Kate Raworths ideas seem to be the ideal if we can achieve that sort of configuration and live within the planetary boundaries is possibly where we need to be.
However the problem is how to get there!
If we accepted that as the goal then we are on the way!
The Paris agreement is an international agreement of what we need to achieve tog et there!
Implementation of that agreement is needed now!
There fore Greta Thunberg’s stance to get the politicians to implement policies to achieve those goals is what we must strive for at the same time as reducing our individual footprints.
TedE - Papakura -#1716363jensMemberMember since: May 3, 2006
Replies: 7613jens April 9, 2019 at 8:43 pm
Well then TedE –
it looks like only Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez has a proposal for what needs to be done to generate the capital to finance conversion to fully sustainable non-polluting power generation , which is –
reduce consumption to the level that was needed to keep up with the costly war effort.
If people agree with that in principle, there might be a good political chance yet for the milder, less radical “Third Way”, with all of us systematically participating in the effort with the additional bonus that instead of consuming wealth as in war, we would all create long term wealth and prosperity for all of us, including the most unfortunate have-nots, who will become HAVES !(?).
Reasoned skepticism, questions and discussion welcome.</p>
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