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Climate Change thread for all climate change discussions

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  • #1741291
    Hero42
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    Hero42

    For those living in low lying coastal regions you may want to check this put.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/01/alarming-new-map-shows-the-devastation-rising-sea-levels-could-cause-in-new-zealand.html

    This isn’t showing land that will be submerged by 2050 but land which is likely to flood at least once a year by 2050 from storms combined with higher sea levels.

    As that happens insurance premiums for these regions will rise or possibly be withdrawn so if you live there you may want to think about moving before property values start to suffer due to the damage from storms.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1741294
    paulinem
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    paulinem

    Hero I have a friend whom lives in Aitutuki ( Cook Islands ). The only insurance they can get is fire  insurance. The reason being the insurance companies will not insure the home they built mortgage free, re the insurance companys concern of weather problems in the Pacific Islands in expensive  damage to buildings .

    Thats the negative where as I pay a combined  insurance of $170 per month, and the same in council rates per month. They pay NO rates ( it is covered by a tourist entry tax) and insurance she told me is approx $100 per annum. They are both grownups on the NZ super ( the cooks is a NZ territory re eligible for the super as they spent most of their life working and raising a family in NZ)

    Because they pay no rates (council tax) and very little insurance etc ( they have no vehicle as they can walk to where ever they need to go on the island) That she has been able to save enough by being careful  from their super and checking cheap airline fares etc on the internet, that her and hubby were able to have traveled to the UK to see their son and his family two years ago. Last year they traveled to the NSW Australia  to see another son and his family.

    Re home been badly  damaged re weather problems, she said they will just pack up and come back to NZ and try and get a council pensioner flat to rent. In the meantime  both are enjoying living permanently a  daily life on a nice pacific island.

    #1741312
    Photoqueen
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    Photoqueen

    Hero42
    Don’t forget denialists used to be very absolute that the temperature wouldn’t go up and the world wasn’t warming. Not anymore.
    They got wrong.

    Some where even definite that the world would cool.
    Got that absolute prediction wrong too.

    Clearly scientists are more sensible and believable
    😎

    #1741319
    henri
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    henri

    Hero

    You are wrong rob023 doesn’t have a problem with could or may.  He used a quote from a scientist saying polar bears could become extinct to support his post.

    Rob023

    I know you probably won’t answer this but why is it OK for you to use posts with scientists saying could or may to support your position but not when they use could or may when supporting climate change.

    Isn’t that hypocritical?

    #1741320
    henri
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    henri

    Rob023

    You should read those scientific studies as they do allow for what nature does. You just have to get into the details and not just read the summary of findings.

    Don’t worry if they didn’t allow for the normal background processes other scientists would rip them to shreds when it is peer reviewed.

    #1741360
    rob023
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    rob023

    Climate Change: Not the End of the World

    In the video, Lauren mentions “everybody will disappear in a cloud of blue steam”
    In 1972 Scientist Paul Ehrlich announced “everybody will disappear in a cloud of blue steam in 20 years.”
    Wow, blue steam! Look up ‘blue steam’ on google and the first reference is on coffee science.
    Alas everybody didn’t disappear in 1992 in clouds of any colour.
    Ehrlich made several other proclamations, none of which eventuated.

    A 2016 statement reads “Half a century ago, scientists and activists predicted utter doom for the planet. That hasn’t happened yet, but it’s nothing to cheer about.”
    The predictions didn’t come true because the people who made them were talking nonsense.
    The end of the world hasn’t happened yet, so let the con artists just keep moving the goalposts to suit their narrative.
    A prediction without a time horizon at which to judge it is not science, it is religion.

    Here’s another thought: they were simply wrong. Good science can apparently falsify bad theories.
    First on the starting line global cooling. That proved a fail.
    Then global warming popped up but that failed too. Thus they’re hoping climate change might work. Climate change predicts everything and cannot be falsified so they would have us believe.
    Got floods or drought? Climate change.
    Unusually cold or warm this month? Climate change.
    Fires burn out of control? Climate change.

    The lesson from all the “doom, boom and gloom” is that things are never as bad as the talking heads think. Particularly if there are books to sell or grants to write.
    In the 1960s overpopulation would kill us in the 1980s.
    A book “Famine 1975” gave a list of countries to not give aid to.
    The OPEC embargo brought forth claims we’d run out of oil in the 1990s.
    “Y2K” would crash civilization. The doomsters couldn’t decide between them if the ‘crash’ would happen first day of 2000 or 2001.
    The North Pole, decades after it was predicted to be ice free year round still isn’t.
    Ok, ok let’s try another con job. Hey ‘Climate Change” sounds cool.

    #1741361
    paulinem
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    paulinem

    Rob do you not have a normal life to spend your retirement days, why dont you put in a garden of vegetables rather than these continual monotonous posts trying to falsely and unable to pursade grownups to accept your denialist view point.

    #1741362
    Bryan
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    Bryan

    Oh well may be it keeps his mind active in his old age.

    Nothing wrong with that is there? Thing is you don’t have to read it. It keeps him out of trouble in any case.

    At Home, At Peace and Causing Trouble In South Taranaki

    #1741363
    huiatahi
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    huiatahi

    Nothing wrong with that is there? Thing is you don’t have to read it. It keeps him out of trouble in any case.

    That’s why these threads are dying Bryan, (Apart from admin banning so many)  Too many people have thought “I don’t have to read it” and have walked.

    huiatahi

    #1741390
    rob023
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    rob023

    Paulinem, you do have a busy mind that you can fit four topics into just one short sentence.
    One of my hobbies is word interpretation.
    “Why can’t you be normal?” is a common saying. It implies individuals can be put in boxes.
    One antonym of normal is abnormal, thus people who don’t wish to be forced into certain boxes, may enjoy considering themselves as abnormal.

    Sunday for me at least, is the Lord’s Day. It’s normal for me to do as little as possible in the way of work on Sundays. I managed to watch some of the sevens rugby – didn’t our teams do wonderfully.

    Although the property isn’t large, I have quite an extensive garden. There’s trees and flowers including a stunning rose bush. Summer veges this year are taro, beans, potatoes, tomatoes and choko. Fruits are fejoas, strawberries, lemons and avocados. That last one I was really excited about. About 4-5 years ago I planted a few avocado stones, thinned and left just one. Well, this year it’s got fruit on it.
    Sadly the tomatoes didn’t as good this year. They could have done with a lot more co2.

    Regarding my post with the Lauren Jeffrey video. Like many of the articles I prepare, I wrote that one 3-4 days ago during an evening.

    If you find my posts monotonous then pass them by – simple.
    There’s nothing false in the Not the End of the World post and you’re not forced to accept my realist point of view.

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